Re: Can we have a Delta-DVD release
by James Gallagher
No, there is no tool which does that, but I bet I could write one. Rather than trying to fiddle the current delta-rpm procedure to do this it could be done naively using similar techniques: each rpm from F11 release iso is compared against corresponding rpm (if it exists) in F10 release iso, essentially by unpacking and calculating diffs for each component in the rpm package. Then repack only the components that have changed and append to a list components that can be retrieved from rpms on the f10 release. I bet even doing that would give a substantial saving.
I'll do a test when F11 final comes out and see if I can get the x86_64 DVD deltas below 1gb. The rest of the iso is only ~300mb mainly from two files: I'm not sure if a useful delta between the (binary) boot.iso and stage2.img files can be created, but it seems mathematically feasible
--- On Tue, 21/4/09, Warren Togami <wtogami(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> From: Warren Togami <wtogami(a)redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: Can we have a Delta-DVD release
> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" <fedora-devel-list(a)redhat.com>
> Date: Tuesday, 21 April, 2009, 4:40 AM
> On 04/20/2009 10:15 PM, James
> Gallagher wrote:
> >
> > After all, I think some of the large language packages
> would have a
> > pretty small delta between 6 month release cycles.
> >
>
> Note that nearly every package is rebuilt between
> releases.
>
> For this to make any difference at all, it would have to
> delta not only the bits of the RPM packages, but delta the
> uncompressed RPMS against each other.
>
> Does any tool do this today across an entire ISO image?
>
> Warren Togami
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15 years, 2 months
PackageKit and Presto
by Martin Sourada
Hi,
Fedora 11 is probably going to see two great improvements to our updates
system - the PackageKit one makes the updates much more verbose and the
Presto one saves a lot of bandwith. The problem is that PackageKit does
not know about presto and thus showing download progress for Presto
enabled repos is broken. Yesterday I was waiting about 10 minutes before
anything other than "Downloading packages" appeared and even then,
packages fetched via Presto weren't marked as downloaded.
So I though I'd ask. Is anyone working on this? Should I expect it to be
working at F11 GA?
PS: The new PackageKit update interface rocks :-)
Thanks,
Martin
15 years, 2 months
Re: Can we have a Delta-DVD release
by James Gallagher
>
> It's called jigdo.
>
> --
> Conrad Meyer <konrad(a)tylerc.org>
>
no it isn't, the end user still has to download +4gb with jigdo.
or, were you being funny?
15 years, 2 months
runtime dependencies on .so symlinks
by Julian Sikorski
Hello,
I have recently submitted a WIP EMBOSS package for review [1]. During
further hacking, it turns that the java ui requires the .so symlinks in
order to work properly (these are currently placed in a devel package).
What is the proper way to handle such situation? Just place the symlinks
in the main package (or -libs subpackage, in this case)? Thanks in advance,
Julian
[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496133
15 years, 2 months
Getting rid of /usr for F12?
by Lennart Poettering
Heya,
there's one topic that keeps popping up in various discussions: can't
we get rid of /usr? The seperation of / and /usr doesn't make much
sense anymore. We could make /usr a symlink to / for an interims phase
and everything would be good for conservative folks who think the FHS
is the holy bible.
In the past more and more stuff has been moved from /usr to /. It's
unlikely that it's going to become less. Also, right now I am aware of
quite a few packages that don't get the seperation of / and /usr right
and rely on stuff from /usr during early bootup.
Let's eliminate this source of errors and clean up our file system
layout a bit. Let's drop /usr for F12!
And for the folks who think /usr is awesome because it allows mounting
/usr ro while mounting / rw: it's not. Much more useful it would be if
/ in its entirety could be mounted ro. Debian allows that. It's not
too hard to make that work on fedora as well.
We wouldn't exactly be the first system without /usr as it seems. Hurd
does that too as I was informed. That makes at least one thing they
got right.
Let the flamefest begin!
Lennart
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15 years, 2 months
My first DontZap use case while testing F11 beta
by Paul Wouters
My first fedora 11 beta run-in with not having dontzap set to false.
I have a dual twin setup. This already requires an xorg.conf file,
because in the no-config running, xorg decides you want to only use
one of the two screens it finds. I don't know why, I consider it a bug.
I configure it to have dual screen. When I login, my window manager dies
on me. My gnome panel only works in my left screen, but anything I
select pops up on the right screen, out of focus. I can move my mouse
into the other screen but I cannot get any focus. So I cannot get to a
terminal or any other application.
So I ctrl-alt-f2. Now my left monitor goes into standby mode and my
right monitor just shows a blinking cursor. The same for all VC's except
alt-f7 which brings me back to my broken X session.
I had to login via ssh to fix my machine, because I could not restart X.
Indeed, i did not have sysrq enabled yet, that's disabled per default it
seems.
+1 for reverting to the old behaviour of having ctrl-alt-backspace kill
the current X session.
Paul
15 years, 2 months
Re: packages that have not yet rebuilt in dist-f11
by Till Maas
On Monday 20 April 2009 17:30:22 Christoph Wickert wrote:
> Am Montag, den 20.04.2009, 17:21 +0200 schrieb Milos Jakubicek:
> > Jesse, could you regenerate the list please?
>
> It's automatically being regenerated.
I believe that this has stopped after the the automatic rebuild finished.
Nevertheless it would be nice to have a timestamp of the last run included in
the output.
Regards
Till
15 years, 2 months
rawhide report: 20090420 changes
by Fedora compose checker
Compose started at Mon Apr 20 06:15:05 UTC 2009
Updated Packages:
exiv2-0.18.1-1.fc11
-------------------
* Fri Apr 17 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter(a)fedoraproject.org> - 0.18.1-1
- exiv2-0.18.1
- drop -fvisibility-inlines-hidden (#496050)
f-spot-0.5.0.3-8.fc11
---------------------
* Sat Apr 18 2009 Matthias Clasen <mclasen(a)redhat.com> - 0.5.0.3-8
- Avoid showing f-spot twice for photo imports
- Make f-spot-import work with gvfs
gnome-bluetooth-2.27.4-3.fc11
-----------------------------
* Sat Apr 18 2009 Matthias Clasen <mclasen(a)redhat.com> - 2.27.4-3
- Add padding to the wizard
* Thu Apr 16 2009 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera(a)redhat.com> - 2.27.4-2
- Require the PA Bluetooth plugins
gnome-games-2.26.1-2.fc11
-------------------------
* Sat Apr 18 2009 Matthias Clasen <mclasen(a)redhat.com> - 1:2.26.1-2
- Fix up some missing figures in the same-gnome manual (#496376)
gthumb-2.10.11-4.fc11
---------------------
* Sat Apr 18 2009 Matthias Clasen <mclasen(a)redhat.com> - 2.10.11-4
- Don't install two desktop files for photo import
pyxmlsec-0.3.0-3.fc11
---------------------
* Sun Apr 19 2009 Lubomir Rintel (Good Data) <lubo.rintel(a)gooddata.com> - 0.3.0-3
- bcond the cryptography backend, default to OpenSSL
vdr-1.6.0-21.fc11
-----------------
* Sat Apr 18 2009 Ville Skyttä <ville.skytta at iki.fi> - 1.6.0-21
- Use videodir from /etc/sysconfig/vdr if set in vdr-moveto.sh.
Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 7
Broken deps for i386
----------------------------------------------------------
sems-ivr-1.1.0-5.fc10.i386 requires libpython2.5.so.1.0
sems-python-1.1.0-5.fc10.i386 requires libpython2.5.so.1.0
sems-xmlrpc2di-1.1.0-5.fc10.i386 requires libssl.so.7
Broken deps for x86_64
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sems-ivr-1.1.0-5.fc10.x86_64 requires libpython2.5.so.1.0()(64bit)
sems-python-1.1.0-5.fc10.x86_64 requires libpython2.5.so.1.0()(64bit)
sems-xmlrpc2di-1.1.0-5.fc10.x86_64 requires libssl.so.7()(64bit)
Broken deps for ppc
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fedora-ksplice-0.5-3.fc11.noarch requires ksplice
sems-ivr-1.1.0-5.fc10.ppc requires libpython2.5.so.1.0
sems-python-1.1.0-5.fc10.ppc requires libpython2.5.so.1.0
sems-xmlrpc2di-1.1.0-5.fc10.ppc requires libssl.so.7
Broken deps for ppc64
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cabal2spec-0.12-1.fc11.noarch requires ghc > 0:6.10.1-7
fedora-ksplice-0.5-3.fc11.noarch requires ksplice
sems-ivr-1.1.0-5.fc10.ppc64 requires libpython2.5.so.1.0()(64bit)
sems-python-1.1.0-5.fc10.ppc64 requires libpython2.5.so.1.0()(64bit)
sems-xmlrpc2di-1.1.0-5.fc10.ppc64 requires libssl.so.7()(64bit)
15 years, 2 months
system-config-lvm sources
by itamar
how to get the system-config-lvm sources ?
according with
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SystemConfig/lvm
doesn't work
$ export CVSROOT=:pserver:anonymous@rhlinux.redhat.com:/usr/local/CVS
$ cvs -z3 login
(hit enter)
$ cvs -z3 co system-config-lvm
any help ?
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