10:13 a.m.
Hey list,
Before I go and submit a bug, I would like to ask why git requires
that i install so many dependencies? Apparently, to manage files, git
requires no less than CVS, Subversion, emacs-common and emacs-git, and
tk. Below is a log from yum. I'm not complaining too much as I will
need these tools too, but it strikes me as very odd that git requires
that I have not only a working kitchen sink, but a dishwasher, and
servants to load it every day.
-Yaakov
yankee@rtn:~$ sudo yum install git
Wachtwoord:
livna 100% |=========================| 2.1 kB 00:00
fedora 100% |=========================| 2.1 kB 00:00
adobe-linux-i386 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00
updates 100% |=========================| 2.3 kB 00:00
Setting up Install Process
Parsing package install arguments
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package git.i386 0:1.5.3.8-1.fc8 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: git-cvs = 1.5.3.8-1.fc8 for package: git
--> Processing Dependency: git-email = 1.5.3.8-1.fc8 for package: git
--> Processing Dependency: emacs-git = 1.5.3.8-1.fc8 for package: git
--> Processing Dependency: git-arch = 1.5.3.8-1.fc8 for package: git
--> Processing Dependency: gitk = 1.5.3.8-1.fc8 for package: git
--> Processing Dependency: git-gui = 1.5.3.8-1.fc8 for package: git
--> Processing Dependency: git-core = 1.5.3.8-1.fc8 for package: git
--> Processing Dependency: perl-Git = 1.5.3.8-1.fc8 for package: git
--> Processing Dependency: git-svn = 1.5.3.8-1.fc8 for package: git
--> Running transaction check
---> Package gitk.i386 0:1.5.3.8-1.fc8 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: tk >= 8.4 for package: gitk
---> Package git-core.i386 0:1.5.3.8-1.fc8 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: perl(Error) for package: git-core
---> Package git-arch.i386 0:1.5.3.8-1.fc8 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: tla for package: git-arch
---> Package emacs-git.i386 0:1.5.3.8-1.fc8 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: emacs-common for package: emacs-git
---> Package git-email.i386 0:1.5.3.8-1.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package perl-Git.i386 0:1.5.3.8-1.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package git-svn.i386 0:1.5.3.8-1.fc8 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: perl(SVN::Core) for package: git-svn
--> Processing Dependency: perl(URI) for package: git-svn
--> Processing Dependency: subversion for package: git-svn
--> Processing Dependency: perl(SVN::Ra) for package: git-svn
--> Processing Dependency: perl(LWP::UserAgent) for package: git-svn
--> Processing Dependency: perl(Term::ReadKey) for package: git-svn
--> Processing Dependency: perl(SVN::Delta) for package: git-svn
---> Package git-cvs.i386 0:1.5.3.8-1.fc8 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: cvsps for package: git-cvs
--> Processing Dependency: perl(DBI) for package: git-cvs
--> Processing Dependency: cvs for package: git-cvs
---> Package git-gui.i386 0:1.5.3.8-1.fc8 set to be updated
--> Running transaction check
---> Package subversion.i386 0:1.4.4-7 set to be updated
---> Package perl-TermReadKey.i386 0:2.30-2 set to be updated
---> Package perl-libwww-perl.noarch 0:5.808-3.fc8 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: perl(HTML::Entities) for package: perl-libwww-perl
--> Processing Dependency: perl(Compress::Zlib) for package: perl-libwww-perl
--> Processing Dependency: perl-HTML-Parser >= 3.33 for package:
perl-libwww-perl
---> Package tk.i386 1:8.4.17-2.fc8 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: tcl = 1:8.4.17 for package: tk
--> Processing Dependency: libtcl8.4.so for package: tk
---> Package cvs.i386 0:1.11.22-12.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package cvsps.i386 0:2.1-5.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package perl-Error.noarch 1:0.17010-1.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package perl-URI.noarch 0:1.35-3.1 set to be updated
---> Package subversion-perl.i386 0:1.4.4-7 set to be updated
---> Package perl-DBI.i386 0:1.58-2.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package emacs-common.i386 0:22.1-8.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package tla.i386 0:1.3.5-4.fc8 set to be updated
--> Running transaction check
---> Package perl-Compress-Zlib.noarch 0:2.005-2.fc8 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: perl(IO::Compress::Gzip) >= 2.005 for
package: perl-Compress-Zlib
--> Processing Dependency: perl(IO::Uncompress::Gunzip) >= 2.005 for
package: perl-Compress-Zlib
--> Processing Dependency: perl(Compress::Raw::Zlib) >= 2.005 for
package: perl-Compress-Zlib
--> Processing Dependency: perl(IO::Compress::Gzip::Constants) >=
2.005 for package: perl-Compress-Zlib
--> Processing Dependency: perl(IO::Compress::Base::Common) >= 2.005
for package: perl-Compress-Zlib
---> Package tcl.i386 1:8.4.17-1.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package perl-HTML-Parser.i386 0:3.56-2.fc8 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: perl(HTML::Tagset) >= 3.03 for package:
perl-HTML-Parser
--> Processing Dependency: perl(HTML::Tagset) for package: perl-HTML-Parser
--> Running transaction check
---> Package perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib.i386 0:2.005-3.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package perl-IO-Compress-Zlib.noarch 0:2.005-2.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package perl-HTML-Tagset.noarch 0:3.10-6.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package perl-IO-Compress-Base.noarch 0:2.005-2.fc8 set to be updated
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
Dependencies Resolved
=============================================================================
Package Arch Version Repository Size
=============================================================================
Installing:
git i386 1.5.3.8-1.fc8 updates 7.2 k
Installing for dependencies:
cvs i386 1.11.22-12.fc8 fedora 726 k
cvsps i386 2.1-5.fc8 fedora 56 k
emacs-common i386 22.1-8.fc8 updates 18 M
emacs-git i386 1.5.3.8-1.fc8 updates 45 k
git-arch i386 1.5.3.8-1.fc8 updates 26 k
git-core i386 1.5.3.8-1.fc8 updates 4.1 M
git-cvs i386 1.5.3.8-1.fc8 updates 65 k
git-email i386 1.5.3.8-1.fc8 updates 22 k
git-gui i386 1.5.3.8-1.fc8 updates 78 k
git-svn i386 1.5.3.8-1.fc8 updates 78 k
gitk i386 1.5.3.8-1.fc8 updates 65 k
perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib i386 2.005-3.fc8 fedora 54 k
perl-Compress-Zlib noarch 2.005-2.fc8 fedora 34 k
perl-DBI i386 1.58-2.fc8 fedora 715 k
perl-Error noarch 1:0.17010-1.fc8 updates 27 k
perl-Git i386 1.5.3.8-1.fc8 updates 16 k
perl-HTML-Parser i386 3.56-2.fc8 fedora 111 k
perl-HTML-Tagset noarch 3.10-6.fc8 fedora 15 k
perl-IO-Compress-Base noarch 2.005-2.fc8 fedora 53 k
perl-IO-Compress-Zlib noarch 2.005-2.fc8 fedora 135 k
perl-TermReadKey i386 2.30-2 fedora 32 k
perl-URI noarch 1.35-3.1 fedora 116 k
perl-libwww-perl noarch 5.808-3.fc8 fedora 373 k
subversion i386 1.4.4-7 fedora 2.3 M
subversion-perl i386 1.4.4-7 fedora 753 k
tcl i386 1:8.4.17-1.fc8 updates 1.8 M
tk i386 1:8.4.17-2.fc8 updates 1.2 M
tla i386 1.3.5-4.fc8 updates 354 k
Transaction Summary
=============================================================================
Install 29 Package(s)
Update 0 Package(s)
Remove 0 Package(s)
Total download size: 32 M
Is this ok [y/N]: y
10:17 a.m.
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:13:45 -0500
"Yaakov Nemoy" <loupgaroublond(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hey list,
Before I go and submit a bug, I would like to ask why git requires
that i install so many dependencies? Apparently, to manage files, git
requires no less than CVS, Subversion, emacs-common and emacs-git, and
tk. Below is a log from yum. I'm not complaining too much as I will
need these tools too, but it strikes me as very odd that git requires
that I have not only a working kitchen sink, but a dishwasher, and
servants to load it every day.
git is a metapackage that wraps all the various sub-packages that git
has.
If you really only want the core stuff, do this:
yum install git-core
It will bring in some perl deps that are needed, but not nearly as much
as what you're seeing now.
This is not a bug. Please don't file one.
josh
10:18 a.m.
Yaakov Nemoy (loupgaroublond(a)gmail.com) said:
Hey list,
Before I go and submit a bug, I would like to ask why git requires
that i install so many dependencies? Apparently, to manage files, git
requires no less than CVS, Subversion, emacs-common and emacs-git, and
tk. Below is a log from yum. I'm not complaining too much as I will
need these tools too, but it strikes me as very odd that git requires
that I have not only a working kitchen sink, but a dishwasher, and
servants to load it every day.
git's a metapackage, you probably want git-core.
Bill
10:19 a.m.
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:13:45AM -0500, Yaakov Nemoy wrote:
Hey list,
Before I go and submit a bug, I would like to ask why git requires
that i install so many dependencies? Apparently, to manage files, git
requires no less than CVS, Subversion, emacs-common and emacs-git, and
tk. Below is a log from yum. I'm not complaining too much as I will
need these tools too, but it strikes me as very odd that git requires
that I have not only a working kitchen sink, but a dishwasher, and
servants to load it every day.
If you don't want it all then don't install it.
If you just need the core git commands, then just install 'git-core'
Dan.
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10:25 a.m.
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Daniel P. Berrange
<berrange(a)redhat.com> wrote:
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:13:45AM -0500, Yaakov Nemoy wrote:
> Hey list,
>
> Before I go and submit a bug, I would like to ask why git requires
> that i install so many dependencies? Apparently, to manage files, git
> requires no less than CVS, Subversion, emacs-common and emacs-git, and
> tk. Below is a log from yum. I'm not complaining too much as I will
> need these tools too, but it strikes me as very odd that git requires
> that I have not only a working kitchen sink, but a dishwasher, and
> servants to load it every day.
If you don't want it all then don't install it.
If you just need the core git commands, then just install 'git-core'
Thanks for the fast answers. Glad to know it's not actually a bug.
10:46 a.m.
On Feb 17, 2008 11:04 AM, Josh Boyer <jwboyer(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:27:09 +0100
Matej Cepl <mcepl(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> On 2008-02-15, 16:25 GMT, Yaakov Nemoy wrote:
> > Thanks for the fast answers. Glad to know it's not actually
> > a bug.
>
> It is.
Really? What bugzilla number?
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433209
-Yaakov
12:13 p.m.
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:46:30 -0500
"Yaakov Nemoy" <loupgaroublond(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Feb 17, 2008 11:04 AM, Josh Boyer <jwboyer(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:27:09 +0100
> Matej Cepl <mcepl(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
> > On 2008-02-15, 16:25 GMT, Yaakov Nemoy wrote:
> > > Thanks for the fast answers. Glad to know it's not actually
> > > a bug.
> >
> > It is.
>
> Really? What bugzilla number?
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433209
Awesome. Someone finally got the point. Thanks :)
josh
10:20 a.m.
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Yaakov Nemoy <loupgaroublond(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hey list,
Before I go and submit a bug, I would like to ask why git requires
that i install so many dependencies? Apparently, to manage files, git
requires no less than CVS, Subversion, emacs-common and emacs-git, and
tk. Below is a log from yum. I'm not complaining too much as I will
need these tools too, but it strikes me as very odd that git requires
that I have not only a working kitchen sink, but a dishwasher, and
servants to load it every day.
git is a meta package; try yum install git-core
10:39 a.m.
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:13:45AM -0500, Yaakov Nemoy wrote:
Hey list,
Before I go and submit a bug, I would like to ask why git requires
that i install so many dependencies? Apparently, to manage files, git
requires no less than CVS, Subversion, emacs-common and emacs-git, and
tk. Below is a log from yum. I'm not complaining too much as I will
need these tools too, but it strikes me as very odd that git requires
that I have not only a working kitchen sink, but a dishwasher, and
servants to load it every day.
[...]
---> Package git.i386 0:1.5.3.8-1.fc8 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: git-cvs = 1.5.3.8-1.fc8 for package: git
--> Processing Dependency: git-email = 1.5.3.8-1.fc8 for package: git
--> Processing Dependency: emacs-git = 1.5.3.8-1.fc8 for package: git
--> Processing Dependency: git-arch = 1.5.3.8-1.fc8 for package: git
--> Processing Dependency: gitk = 1.5.3.8-1.fc8 for package: git
--> Processing Dependency: git-gui = 1.5.3.8-1.fc8 for package: git
--> Processing Dependency: git-core = 1.5.3.8-1.fc8 for package: git
--> Processing Dependency: perl-Git = 1.5.3.8-1.fc8 for package: git
--> Processing Dependency: git-svn = 1.5.3.8-1.fc8 for package: git
"git" is a dummy/virtual package that you use when you want all the
possible subpackages. That includes:
- gitk -> needs tk
- some gui tools (git-gui) -> needs tk
- svn converter support (git-svn) -> needs svn
- cvs converter support (git-cvs) -> needs cvs, cvsps
- emacs mode (emacs-git) -> needs emacs
- arch converter support (git-arch) -> needs tla (aka arch)
For normal use, you want git-core and probably gitk. The others can
be handy at times, especially git-svn.
OG.
12:21 p.m.
On Fri, 2008-02-15 at 18:36 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
Le vendredi 15 février 2008 à 11:13 -0500, Yaakov Nemoy a écrit :
> Before I go and submit a bug, I would like to ask why git requires
> that i install so many dependencies?
Because git is not git, git is a metapackage.
Welcome to metapackage hell.
Is it insane to propose that metapackages must be explicitly named as
such?
- ajax
12:27 p.m.
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Hans de Goede <j.w.r.degoede(a)hhs.nl> wrote:
Bill Crawford wrote:
> On 15/02/2008, Adam Jackson <ajackson(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> Is it insane to propose that metapackages must be explicitly named as
>> such?
>
> You're not wrong.
>
> +1 for "git-suite" ...
>
+1 and then rename git-core to just git!
Regards,
Hans
Not to bicker of the potential naming, but how about just calling it
git-meta so there is no ambiguity.
--
Fedora 7 : sipping some of that moonshine
( www.pembo13.com )
4:21 a.m.
On Friday 15 February 2008, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
Not to bicker of the potential naming, but how about just calling it
git-meta so there is no ambiguity.
I think there's plenty of ambiguity in "git-meta". If the intent is to
install all git-* with this, call it "git-all", "git-everything" or
just drop
the whole metapackage and set up a git comps group.
4:51 a.m.
Ville Skyttä wrote:
On Friday 15 February 2008, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
> Not to bicker of the potential naming, but how about just calling it
> git-meta so there is no ambiguity.
I think there's plenty of ambiguity in "git-meta". If the intent is to
install all git-* with this, call it "git-all", "git-everything" or
just drop
the whole metapackage and set up a git comps group.
+1
2:44 p.m.
On Feb 16, 2008 4:21 AM, Ville Skyttä <ville.skytta(a)iki.fi> wrote:
On Friday 15 February 2008, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
> Not to bicker of the potential naming, but how about just calling it
> git-meta so there is no ambiguity.
I think there's plenty of ambiguity in "git-meta". If the intent is to
install all git-* with this, call it "git-all", "git-everything" or
just drop
the whole metapackage and set up a git comps group.
+1 i just didn't like git-suite
--
Fedora 7 : sipping some of that moonshine
( www.pembo13.com )
3:13 p.m.
On Feb 16, 2008 3:44 PM, Arthur Pemberton <pemboa(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Feb 16, 2008 4:21 AM, Ville Skyttä <ville.skytta(a)iki.fi>
wrote:
> On Friday 15 February 2008, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
>
> > Not to bicker of the potential naming, but how about just calling it
> > git-meta so there is no ambiguity.
>
> I think there's plenty of ambiguity in "git-meta". If the intent is
to
> install all git-* with this, call it "git-all", "git-everything"
or just drop
> the whole metapackage and set up a git comps group.
+1 i just didn't like git-suite
As a naming scheme, X-suite has a certain elegance to it, in my
opinion, but that all boils down to taste.
Since we already have a consistent scheme for such a thing, comps
seems like a better solution for Fedora to me.
-Yaakov
12:25 p.m.
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Adam Jackson <ajackson(a)redhat.com> wrote:
On Fri, 2008-02-15 at 18:36 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> Le vendredi 15 février 2008 à 11:13 -0500, Yaakov Nemoy a écrit :
>
> > Before I go and submit a bug, I would like to ask why git requires
> > that i install so many dependencies?
>
> Because git is not git, git is a metapackage.
> Welcome to metapackage hell.
Is it insane to propose that metapackages must be explicitly named as
such?
I was thinking similarly as I read through this thread. I would have
just tried `yum install git` myself. Considering that I think I know
what git is, and that it was found by yum, I would have no reason to
`yum info git` first.
--
Fedora 7 : sipping some of that moonshine
( www.pembo13.com )
12:23 p.m.
Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
Le vendredi 15 février 2008 à 11:13 -0500, Yaakov Nemoy a écrit :
> Before I go and submit a bug, I would like to ask why git requires
> that i install so many dependencies?
Because git is not git, git is a metapackage.
Welcome to metapackage hell.
+1, I believe this actally is a bug, almost no other package has this, most
other packages have:
foo (which contains the core_
foo-addon1
foo-addon2
etc. and then if you really want all you can just do:
yum install 'foo*'
Can we please stop this meta package bs, it hit me too with git, and I do not
consider myself a novice when I say:
"yum install git"
I mean:
"yum install git"
and not
"yum install git and anything vaguely git related including an fscking emacs
add-on which drags in a whopping XX MB of emacs"
Regards,
Hans (who is seriously annoyed by this)
12:26 p.m.
On Fri, 2008-02-15 at 19:23 +0100, Hans de Goede wrote:
Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> Le vendredi 15 février 2008 à 11:13 -0500, Yaakov Nemoy a écrit :
>
>> Before I go and submit a bug, I would like to ask why git requires
>> that i install so many dependencies?
>
> Because git is not git, git is a metapackage.
> Welcome to metapackage hell.
>
+1, I believe this actally is a bug, almost no other package has this, most
other packages have:
foo (which contains the core_
foo-addon1
foo-addon2
etc. and then if you really want all you can just do:
yum install 'foo*'
Can we please stop this meta package bs, it hit me too with git, and I do not
consider myself a novice when I say:
"yum install git"
I mean:
"yum install git"
and not
"yum install git and anything vaguely git related including an fscking emacs
add-on which drags in a whopping XX MB of emacs"
Hey, at least it doesn't include the eclipse git plugin ("egit"
IIRC)
and thus drag in eclipse, java, etc
12:27 p.m.
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 01:26:19PM -0500, David Malcolm wrote:
On Fri, 2008-02-15 at 19:23 +0100, Hans de Goede wrote:
> Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> > Le vendredi 15 février 2008 à 11:13 -0500, Yaakov Nemoy a écrit :
> >
> >> Before I go and submit a bug, I would like to ask why git requires
> >> that i install so many dependencies?
> >
> > Because git is not git, git is a metapackage.
> > Welcome to metapackage hell.
> >
>
> +1, I believe this actally is a bug, almost no other package has this, most
> other packages have:
> foo (which contains the core_
> foo-addon1
> foo-addon2
>
> etc. and then if you really want all you can just do:
> yum install 'foo*'
>
> Can we please stop this meta package bs, it hit me too with git, and I do not
> consider myself a novice when I say:
> "yum install git"
> I mean:
> "yum install git"
> and not
> "yum install git and anything vaguely git related including an fscking emacs
> add-on which drags in a whopping XX MB of emacs"
>
Hey, at least it doesn't include the eclipse git plugin ("egit" IIRC)
and thus drag in eclipse, java, etc
Hmm, that's a bug. I'll file a ticket to add that dependancy ;-)
Dan.
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12:27 p.m.
On Fri, 2008-02-15 at 13:26 -0500, David Malcolm wrote:
On Fri, 2008-02-15 at 19:23 +0100, Hans de Goede wrote:
> Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> > Le vendredi 15 février 2008 à 11:13 -0500, Yaakov Nemoy a écrit :
> >
> >> Before I go and submit a bug, I would like to ask why git requires
> >> that i install so many dependencies?
> >
> > Because git is not git, git is a metapackage.
> > Welcome to metapackage hell.
> >
>
> +1, I believe this actally is a bug, almost no other package has this, most
> other packages have:
> foo (which contains the core_
> foo-addon1
> foo-addon2
>
> etc. and then if you really want all you can just do:
> yum install 'foo*'
>
> Can we please stop this meta package bs, it hit me too with git, and I do not
> consider myself a novice when I say:
> "yum install git"
> I mean:
> "yum install git"
> and not
> "yum install git and anything vaguely git related including an fscking emacs
> add-on which drags in a whopping XX MB of emacs"
>
Hey, at least it doesn't include the eclipse git plugin ("egit" IIRC)
and thus drag in eclipse, java, etc
Which AFAIK properly just depends upon git-core ... after someone filed
a bug and that was fixed :)
Andrew
12:56 p.m.
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 07:23:06PM +0100, Hans de Goede wrote:
Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> Le vendredi 15 février 2008 à 11:13 -0500, Yaakov Nemoy a écrit :
>
>> Before I go and submit a bug, I would like to ask why git requires
>> that i install so many dependencies?
>
> Because git is not git, git is a metapackage.
> Welcome to metapackage hell.
>
+1, I believe this actally is a bug, almost no other package has this, most
other packages have:
foo (which contains the core_
foo-addon1
foo-addon2
etc. and then if you really want all you can just do:
yum install 'foo*'
Can we please stop this meta package bs, it hit me too with git, and I do
not consider myself a novice when I say:
"yum install git"
I mean:
"yum install git"
and not
"yum install git and anything vaguely git related including an fscking
emacs add-on which drags in a whopping XX MB of emacs"
FWIW Kristian Høgsberg has sent a patch upstream to make their
'git-core' be just 'git'. Assuming there is no violent opposition from
the git list, we'll follow suit in Fedora.
As for yum doing what you say and not what you mean, that is a bug.
Please bring it up with Seth personally.
-James
2:24 p.m.
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:56:24 -0500
James Bowes <jbowes(a)redhat.com> wrote:
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 07:23:06PM +0100, Hans de Goede wrote:
> Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
>> Le vendredi 15 février 2008 à 11:13 -0500, Yaakov Nemoy a écrit :
>>
>>> Before I go and submit a bug, I would like to ask why git requires
>>> that i install so many dependencies?
>>
>> Because git is not git, git is a metapackage.
>> Welcome to metapackage hell.
>>
>
> +1, I believe this actally is a bug, almost no other package has this, most
> other packages have:
> foo (which contains the core_
> foo-addon1
> foo-addon2
>
> etc. and then if you really want all you can just do:
> yum install 'foo*'
>
> Can we please stop this meta package bs, it hit me too with git, and I do
> not consider myself a novice when I say:
> "yum install git"
> I mean:
> "yum install git"
> and not
> "yum install git and anything vaguely git related including an fscking
> emacs add-on which drags in a whopping XX MB of emacs"
FWIW Kristian Høgsberg has sent a patch upstream to make their
'git-core' be just 'git'. Assuming there is no violent opposition from
the git list, we'll follow suit in Fedora.
Yep. If not, and someone sent a patch to fix the Fedora version, I
wouldn't be violently opposed to that either.
--- /dev/null 2008-02-06 12:10:15.878008488 -0600
+++ - 2008-02-15 14:23:57.464694000 -0600
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+I think better in the form of patches
As for yum doing what you say and not what you mean, that is a bug.
Please bring it up with Seth personally.
There is no yum bug. git brings in emacs. Don't bother Seth.
josh
2:37 p.m.
Josh Boyer wrote:
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:56:24 -0500
James Bowes <jbowes(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> As for yum doing what you say and not what you mean, that is a
bug.
> Please bring it up with Seth personally.
There is no yum bug. git brings in emacs. Don't bother Seth.
Pretty sure James Bowes was being sarcastic.
Rahul
4:16 p.m.
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 02:07:12 +0530
Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:56:24 -0500
> James Bowes <jbowes(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>> As for yum doing what you say and not what you mean, that is a bug.
>> Please bring it up with Seth personally.
>
> There is no yum bug. git brings in emacs. Don't bother Seth.
Pretty sure James Bowes was being sarcastic
I know. Lots of people read this list. Not everyone grasps the
concept of dry whit.
josh
4:25 p.m.
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Josh Boyer <jwboyer(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I know. Lots of people read this list. Not everyone grasps the
concept of dry whit.
2nd best Best Kids in the Hall sketch ever... was the super sarcastic
guy on trial in a court room. All his answers were sarcastic and on
hearing them everyone in the room laughed, including the judge. When
the prosecutor asked the court reporter to read back the answers... he
do without emotion..and the judge sentenced the guy to death on
hearing the non-sarcastic rendering of the text.
This is exactly why I want audio streams from public board meetings,
and not just text transcripts.
-jef"Living in a place where the daily high temperatures have swung 70
degrees F in the span of a week...and its still below
freezing."spaleta
2:41 p.m.
James Bowes wrote:
As for yum doing what you say and not what you mean, that is a bug.
Please bring it up with Seth personally.
I imagine this sort of bug report is best filed with Seth in some dark
alley, late at night, after you've gotten your estate in order?
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2:48 p.m.
2008/2/15 Todd Zullinger <tmz(a)pobox.com>:
James Bowes wrote:
> As for yum doing what you say and not what you mean, that is a bug.
> Please bring it up with Seth personally.
I imagine this sort of bug report is best filed with Seth in some dark
alley, late at night, after you've gotten your estate in order?
Hmm. Will there be footage of this?
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4:38 p.m.
On 02/15/2008 03:48 PM, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
2008/2/15 Todd Zullinger <tmz(a)pobox.com>:
> James Bowes wrote:
>> As for yum doing what you say and not what you mean, that is a bug.
>> Please bring it up with Seth personally.
> I imagine this sort of bug report is best filed with Seth in some dark
> alley, late at night, after you've gotten your estate in order?
Hmm. Will there be footage of this?
I *knew* that Fedora TV would be a great idea :D
4:20 p.m.
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 19:23:06 +0100
Hans de Goede <j.w.r.degoede(a)hhs.nl> wrote:
Can we please stop this meta package bs, it hit me too with git, and
I do not
consider myself a novice when I say:
"yum install git"
I mean:
"yum install git"
and not
"yum install git and anything vaguely git related including an fscking emacs
add-on which drags in a whopping XX MB of emacs"
Regards,
Hans (who is seriously annoyed by this)
Ok, I'm going to pick on you a bit Hans. Forgive me.
There is this magical tool called bugzilla. It's used to track issues
people consider to be bugs. It sucks at times, but it's what we have.
If you really thought this was a bug, I would have been a hell of a lot
more receptive to fixing things if it was filed via bugzilla than I
would if I hear about it on a mailing list rant.
Seriously.
josh
2:16 a.m.
Josh Boyer wrote:
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 19:23:06 +0100
Hans de Goede <j.w.r.degoede(a)hhs.nl> wrote:
> Can we please stop this meta package bs, it hit me too with git, and I do not
> consider myself a novice when I say:
> "yum install git"
> I mean:
> "yum install git"
> and not
> "yum install git and anything vaguely git related including an fscking emacs
> add-on which drags in a whopping XX MB of emacs"
>
> Regards,
>
> Hans (who is seriously annoyed by this)
Ok, I'm going to pick on you a bit Hans. Forgive me.
There is this magical tool called bugzilla. It's used to track issues
people consider to be bugs. It sucks at times, but it's what we have.
If you really thought this was a bug, I would have been a hell of a lot
more receptive to fixing things if it was filed via bugzilla than I
would if I hear about it on a mailing list rant.
Seriously.
+1
I agree, its just that when I was bitten by this I didn't think about
filing a bug, and then this discussion came along and I tagged my
complaint onto it, indeed a bug should have been filed.
Regards,
Hans
josh
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