Label and mount point different
by Jerry Williams
I would like to be able to have the mount point be / and the label to be
/f9. It would be nice to be able to set the label at install time.
Other wise I have to use / and then change it later in /etc/fstab and
/boot/grub/grub.conf.
I would also like to be able to control the order of the partitions.
The primary option is nice, but I would like to say 1-15 or be able to drag
them where I want them to be.
Thanks!
16 years, 1 month
Sound input needs attention
by Lorenzo Fiorini
I've followed the thread about s-c-s and I'd like to point the list
attention also to the input side of the sound.
Today VOIP and IM are important business applications and I can't find
an easy way to test the mic input on the F9 RawHide I'm using to write
this msg.
My test PC is an Intel DQ35JO MB with a Philips 720K/40 webcam and an
headset that I use without problem with eeepc's Xandros sound
recorder.
Now I'll try to imagine a user that want to setup the audio input on F9.
First of all there are many places to check:
- System/Preferences/Sound - Audio Conferencing
- Volume Preferences ( Alsa Mixer ) ( not easy to find )
- System/Administration - SoundCard Detection
- Applications - Sound/Video - PulseAudio Volume Control and Sound Recorder
Probably the first try would be System/Preferences/Sound - Audio
Conferencing - Sound capture which has many options:
- ALC268 Analog ( twice )
- OSS
- ALSA
- Usb audio
- PulseAudio
- Test sound
- Silence
there is "Test Sound" with a Sound Capture but not level meters or
Record/Playback test.
If I choose Usb Audio and click test I get:
"gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink
profile=chat: Could not open audio device for recording".
Then if I try to start the Applications - Sound/Video - Sound Recorder
and I get:
"Your audio capture settings are invalid. Please correct them in the
Multimedia settings."
Now I won't continue, this want to be only an example to show that
probably the whole "Sound" needs attention.
best regards,
Lorenzo Fiorini
16 years, 1 month
Install steps on grub.conf
by Jerry Williams
It seems like it would be a nice thing to move any existing grub.conf file
to some kind of backup and not just step on it.
Since grub.conf isn't part of an rpm I don't think it makes sense to save it
as grub.conf.rpmsave.
But I think it would make sense to do something like grub.conf.<date>.
16 years, 1 month
system-config-soundcard: why?
by Bill Nottingham
I see this in the default install - I'm wondering why this needs to be
there.
>From looking over it:
1) it writes ordering lines to modprobe.conf that will cause problems in
the event of hotplug
2) it offers to reload the audio drivers, which will *never* work in a
standard desktop install with a mixer running (and then tells users
to reboot afterwards!)
3) it has 'Apply' buttons, yet also 'Restore Configuration Files' and
'Reset configuration files', which are instant-action
4) its 'Reset configuration files' actually resets them to a state different
from that of a default install
5) it runs *AS ROOT*, complete with GUI, when such permissions aren't
needed to play sounds
6) there is already a 'Sound Preferences' in the desktop, which allows
users to select their default playback & capture devices, and test sounds
So, why do we need this in the default install?
Bill
16 years, 1 month
with F9, will we still need ALL X drivers?
by sean darcy
rpm -qa | grep drv | sort
xorg-x11-drv-acecad-1.1.0-5.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-aiptek-1.0.1-5.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-amd-0.0-22.20070625.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-apm-1.1.1-7.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-ark-0.6.0-6.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-ast-0.81.0-6.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.7.197-1.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-avivo-0.0.1-6.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-calcomp-1.1.0-4.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-chips-1.1.1-5.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-cirrus-1.1.0-5.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-citron-2.2.0-2.fc7
xorg-x11-drv-cyrix-1.1.0-5.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-digitaledge-1.1.0-4.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-dmc-1.1.0-3.fc7
xorg-x11-drv-dummy-0.2.0-5.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-dynapro-1.1.0-3.fc7
xorg-x11-drv-elographics-1.1.0-4.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-evdev-1.1.2-5.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-fbdev-0.3.1-4.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-fpit-1.1.0-4.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-glint-1.1.1-7.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-hyperpen-1.1.0-5.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-i128-1.2.1-1.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-i740-1.1.0-5.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-i810-2.1.1-7.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-jamstudio-1.1.0-4.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-keyboard-1.2.2-2.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-magellan-1.1.0-4.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-magictouch-1.0.0.5-5.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-mga-1.4.6.1-6.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-microtouch-1.1.0-2.fc7
xorg-x11-drv-mouse-1.2.3-1.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-mutouch-1.1.0-5.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-neomagic-1.1.1-4.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-2.1.6-1.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-nsc-2.8.1-4.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-nv-2.1.6-1.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-palmax-1.1.0-4.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-penmount-1.1.0-3.fc7
xorg-x11-drv-rendition-4.1.3-5.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-s3-0.5.0-5.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-s3virge-1.9.1-5.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-savage-2.1.3-1.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-siliconmotion-1.5.1-3.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-sis-0.9.3-4.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-sisusb-0.8.1-9.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-spaceorb-1.1.0-4.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-summa-1.1.0-4.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-tdfx-1.3.0-6.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-tek4957-1.1.0-4.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-trident-1.2.3-6.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-tseng-1.1.0-7.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-ur98-1.1.0-4.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-v4l-0.1.1-8.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-vesa-1.3.0-10.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-via-0.2.2-4.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-vmmouse-12.4.3-1.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-vmware-10.15.2-1.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-void-1.1.1-6.fc8
xorg-x11-drv-voodoo-1.1.1-1.fc8
rpm -e xorg-x11-drv-voodoo-1.1.1-1.fc8
error: Failed dependencies:
xorg-x11-drv-voodoo is needed by (installed)
xorg-x11-drivers-7.2-9.fc8.i386
why?
sean
16 years, 1 month
Fedora 9 beta - livecd-iso-to-disk
by Philip Ashmore
After downloading Fedora-9-Beta-Live-KDE-i686.iso I mounted it using
fuseiso.
I discovered this "livecd-iso-to-disk" in the LiveOS folder on the image.
As it requires root privileges I dutifully changed directory as root to
copied the file to somewhere root could access it.
I set aside some hard disk space, created a 730MB partition as vfat and ran
# sh livecd-iso-to-disk <isopath> <usbstick device>
After a little while it finished and I dutifully rebooted.
The grub boot prompt gave me the normal live cd boot options plus "boot
from local disk" - this took me straight back to the grub menu.
"No problem" I mused, "I'll fix it once I've booted the live image".
The live image booted OK, but I noticed that the fan on my Dell Inspiron
8000 was running almost continuously, and the new desktop theme
(Oxygen?) didn't have an applet that showed CPU / memory / Network usage.
In konsole as root I ran
# grub -> setup (hd0,0)
but it failed stating that it had a problem with the live image devices
(sorry no paper / camera handy).
In the end I ended up installing Fedora 8 (from a physical CD) to
_another_ partition so that I could do
<Add "single" to the kernel command line to enter single user mode for
F8 boot>
# mkdir /mnt/boot
# <mount boot partition as /mnt/boot>
# grub-install --no-floppy --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda <= this
depends on your hard drive set up.
# shutdown -r now
I tried filing a bug report in RedHat/Bugzilla against "Fedora 9 Beta
KDE live CD" but I couldn't find an entry, so I'm posting here.
Basically this script should be smarter in two ways.
1. Know if the partition is on a disk that already has grub installed in
the boot sector and just update the grub directory (easy?).
2. Allow a "full install from ISO" to the specified partition and ask
questions afterward (harder?).
Philip
16 years, 1 month
Suspend on Running ot of battery power
by Balaji Ravindran
Hi All.,
I dont know if this issue was raised already or if there was active
discussion already on this topic.
But i would like to discuss this, if this has not been raised already.
i noticed if my laptop's battery runs out, the computer abruptly shuts
down., but i felt it should actually save the current state, before the
computer suspends or dies out of battery power.
And once plugged in again, it could restore its previous saved state.
I feel this is a pretty easy fix. If one could do the same thing that is
done for suspend(but it should be done when the warning message is given
out" Low Battery power", so that when the battery is about to die, the
computer automatically suspends.
I'm sure a fix should exist already, but just raising it.
Forgive me if its already there.
Thanks
Balaji
16 years, 1 month
Cannot build for F-10
by Orion Poplawski
DEBUG backend.py:480: /usr/bin/yum --installroot
/var/lib/mock/dist-f10-build-166558-28140/root/ groupinstall build
DEBUG util.py:240: run cmd timeout(0): /usr/bin/yum --installroot
/var/lib/mock/dist-f10-build-166558-28140/root/ groupinstall build
DEBUG util.py:261:
file:///mnt/koji/repos/dist-f10-build/28140/ppc/repodata/repomd.xml:
[Errno 5] OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory:
'/mnt/koji/repos/dist-f10-build/28140/ppc/repodata/repomd.xml'
DEBUG util.py:261: Trying other mirror.
DEBUG util.py:261: Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata
(repomd.xml) for repository: build. Please verify its path and try again
--
Orion Poplawski
Technical Manager 303-415-9701 x222
NWRA/CoRA Division FAX: 303-415-9702
3380 Mitchell Lane orion(a)cora.nwra.com
Boulder, CO 80301 http://www.cora.nwra.com
16 years, 1 month
K12Linux Meeting Summary: Friday, March 28th, 2008
by Warren Togami
https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12linux-devel-list
Subscribe to K12Linux Devel List if you are interested in LTSP5 for Fedora.
Participating
=============
<warren> Warren Togami, Red Hat, Fedora department
<pscheie> Peter Scheie, from Minneapolis, K12LTSP advocate & user
<dan_young> Dan Young, Multnomah Education Services District
<vagrantc> Vagrant Cascadian, one of the maintainers of LTSP in debian
<ogra> Oliver Grawert, edubuntu maintainer, ubuntu ltsp dev
<mccann> Jon McCann, Red Hat Engineer, GDM and ConsoleKit author and
maintainer
<cliebow> Chuck Liebow, Ellsworth Schools Maine
<mdomsch> Matt Domsch, Fedora Board, Dell
<spoleeba> Jef Spaleta, Fedora Board, U. of Alaska
LDM (LTSP Display Manager)
==========================
Background: LDM runs on the thin client, asks for a username and
password, then creates an ssh connection to the server. If it is
successful in a user login, it runs a session (like /usr/bin/gnome-session)
* The locale bug where ldminfod overflowed ldm due to too many languages
from locale -a is fixed upstream, will be in the next Fedora build.
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=435521 ConsoleKit LDM
support: Following through to see if ck-launch-session solves our problem.
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=436912 ldm Xsession
support: There are some ideas of how to implement this properly upstream.
* Longer term (after F9) we will tackle the localization and
accessibility problems. Warren will follow up with Jon Mccann to assess
the possibility of doing this via gdm intead.
LTSP Server
===========
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/K12Linux/InstallGuide
ltsp-server package and ltsp-build-client should be equally functional
on Fedora 8 and Fedora 9 at this point. Let Warren know if you see any
problems.
Ugly Warnings during Thin Client Boot
=====================================
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=359621
can't create lock file /etc/mtab/~994: Read-only file system (use -n
flag to override)
<warren> I eliminated most of them, but the ones involving /etc/mtab are
likely impossible to fix.
<vagrantc> warren: ah, we make /etc/mtab a symlink to /proc/mounts, and
i think mount is less noisy ... and we may also use the -n flag to
mount, not sure off the top of my head.
SELinux: Chroot Install/Update with Enforcing Mode
==================================================
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=391451
<warren> So currently thin clients have selinux totally disabled.
<warren> We currently can't fix this for two reasons
<warren> 1) installing a chroot screws with the host kernel's selinux
policies, which is sometimes dangerous
<warren> 2) we currently only do NFS root boot, and selinux doesn't work
with NFS (?)
<warren> In the future I hope we can support selinux enforcing thin
clients, but that will likely only happen with NBD root.
(mkinitrd) implement NBD handling.
==================================
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=424591
<warren> This task unfortunately will be deferred until after F9. There
is simply too much work to be done.
<warren> Jeremy Katz wants nbd in initrd to be implemented as a mount -o
option, so it works exactly like loop mounts.
<warren> I can understand why my earlier nbd patches for mkinitrd were
rejected, because they want to do it correctly and more cleanly.
<warren> We will need to implement it for both nash mount and regular
mount so you can use syntax like:
<warren> mount -t squashfs 192.168.0.254:2000 -o ro,nbd /path/to/mountpoint
<warren> NBD is the kernel's network block device.
<warren> I aim to implement this before Fedora 10.
<warren> Also we plan on implementing a new DHCP option to direct the
client to the right NBD mount point.
<warren> I'm working with dcantrell who is part of the IETF DHCP group
(?) to write a RFC for this
<warren> something like:
<warren> option nbd-root "192.168.0.254:2000";
<warren> so the DHCP server can tell clients where to find the NBD, just
like DHCP can currently do with NFS roots today.
<warren> pscheie, if you install ltsp-server it defines
/etc/xinetd.d/nbdrootd I think
<warren> pscheie, basically nbdrootd serves a file or partition
containing whatever filesystem image to a defined port number
Fix pulseaudio launching for remote sound.
==========================================
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=436906
Talked a bit with Lennart after the meeting. The ticket has been
updated by Lennart with some advice.
Fix ltsp-server-initialize
==========================
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=436907
<warren> ltsp-server-initialize is supposed to be a way to automatically
configure a server to be a LTSP server. This is a lower priority for
me. This is another great opportunity for somebody to get their feet
wet in LTSP development.
screen.d/xdmcp and screen.d/ldm should share X prep code.
=========================================================
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=436910
<warren> oops. this already done. vagrantc did most of the work.
thanks vagrantc.
(ltspfs) Fix cdpinger segfault.
===============================
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=436913
<warren> curiously I haven't seen this crash recently. I'm not aware of
any fixes that went in. Keep an eye out if you see it crash.
<warren> vagrantc is working on a different way to run cdpinger
on-demand via udev. I'll be working with him on this because it is
better than the current way.
Implement non-PXE boot methods using mkelfimage.
================================================
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=438103
<warren> I'm working on this now. After talking with vagrantc yesterday
I decided to use the update-kernels script in ltsp-client with a few
modifications, like NOT touching pxelinux.cfg, yaboot and other boot
loader configs.
<warren> although dwmw2 claims it shouldn't be necessary to wrap kernel
and initrd to boot on linuxbios... going to explore that later. Q-FUNK
of artecgroup is sending me a Thincan with linuxbios so I can do actual
testing later.
FL_TeacherTool
==============
http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/Fl_TeacherTool/
http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/Fl_TeacherTool/screenshot.html
robark says he will port fl_teachertool to K12Linux.
Fedora 9 Release Schedule
=========================
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/9/
This is the Fedora 9 development schedule. This likely means we have
until April 7th to get bug fixes in for Fedora 9.
LTSP Development Training
=========================
We are meeting on Sunday, March 30th at 11AM EDT (1500 UTC) in
irc.freenode.net #ltsp for LTSP development training.
* Learn how to find and check out the LTSP source repositories.
* How to find things in the source checkout.
* How to edit things.
* How to build your own tarballs/RPMS for your testing.
* How to install your test RPMS on your server and client.
Warren Togami
wtogami(a)redhat.com
16 years, 1 month
