On Nov 3, 2013, at 7:10 AM, Kevin Kofler
<kevin.kofler(a)chello.at> wrote:
> What we have now is:
> * a free-of-charge repository with central QA ensuring that everything works
> together,
> * a commitment of that repository to ship only Free Software and active
> auditing to ensure that,
> * client tooling automatically resolving dependencies, avoiding the need to
> bundle libraries (see also
>
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:No_Bundled_Libraries),
> * ergo, an installation procedure of "fire up 'Apper (Software
Management)',
> enter the package name or some search terms or browse the categories for
> the package, click Install, confirm, (enter root password) (*), use the
> application", as user-friendly as it can get.
>
> What we would have in an "app" world would be:
> * every upstream attempting to distribute applications themselves, forcing
> users to hunt down their websites one by one to get software,
> * no control whatsoever over licensing, not even a way to check that what
> claims to be "open source" really is (our auditing has found all sorts of
> licenses with bad terms, bundled code under non-free licenses, etc.),
> * giving more viability to all sorts of payware models and the proprietary
> license restrictions (no redistribution etc.) that are usually used to
> enforce payment,
> * massive bundling and the resulting disk space and security issues.
>
> We DON'T want Apple-like "apps"!
Right, because that's a model for success that shouldn't be either emulated or
improved upon
if success is
* to have no centralized updates
* have most applicatons and tools never updated at all
* have the weakest security model even compared to Windows these days
* have a standards violating OS
* have a unstable OS
and all above points are taken from Apple workstations surrounding me
then indeed i prefer to keep that unsuccesfull as Fedora was while
doing a great job for me the last 7 years as for many others
since it is a free operating system it does not need to be commerical
successfull and so it needs to satisfy it's *existing* and potential userbase
but not obsessive attrative for *everybody*
fit for everybodys needs often at the end of the day means you can do
anything but nothing really good - that's a bad target - keep focused
and doing that things *really good* is the better attitude in doubt