On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 4:21 PM Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler(a)chello.at> wrote:
Kamil Paral wrote:
> Well for the general user, everything is one-time. One download, one
> to USB, one install. Saving a minute in one step and adding it to a
> different step doesn't really matter, it's the same sum overall (unless
> you pay considerable money for the extra downloaded data, of course).
But the larger download will take several minutes extra even on a low-end
"broadband" connection. On slower connections, which are still standard in
parts of the world, it will take hours longer.
Sorry, but your argument is just wrong. We've had a similar discussion
regarding RPM payload compression and so we know we're talking about small
percent number increase by changing the compression, if any. That means a
few tens of MBs for e.g. the Workstation image. And if you spend *hours* to
download the extra 50 MBs, that means you're on a dial-up connection and
the whole image would take you a *week* to download. This whole example is
simply unrealistic. Anyone who has a problem to download extra 50-100 MBs
can hardly use Fedora at all, because even the first dnf metadata update
will consume exactly this amount of data, and then they will be presented
with 1 GB worth of system updates.
Not to mention we're talking here about removing the nested ext4
filesystem, which is likely to *reduce* the image size (and combined with
changing the compression type can equal out to no change at all).
It makes no sense to pre-emptively hate the discussed changes. Let's try
them and then discuss the cost/benefit of the output with actual numbers in