On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 4:21 PM Kevin Kofler kevin.kofler@chello.at wrote:
Kamil Paral wrote:
Well for the general user, everything is one-time. One download, one
write
to USB, one install. Saving a minute in one step and adding it to a different step doesn't really matter, it's the same sum overall (unless you pay considerable money for the extra downloaded data, of course).
But the larger download will take several minutes extra even on a low-end "broadband" connection. On slower connections, which are still standard in parts of the world, it will take hours longer.
Sorry, but your argument is just wrong. We've had a similar discussion regarding RPM payload compression and so we know we're talking about small percent number increase by changing the compression, if any. That means a few tens of MBs for e.g. the Workstation image. And if you spend *hours* to download the extra 50 MBs, that means you're on a dial-up connection and the whole image would take you a *week* to download. This whole example is simply unrealistic. Anyone who has a problem to download extra 50-100 MBs can hardly use Fedora at all, because even the first dnf metadata update will consume exactly this amount of data, and then they will be presented with 1 GB worth of system updates.
Not to mention we're talking here about removing the nested ext4 filesystem, which is likely to *reduce* the image size (and combined with changing the compression type can equal out to no change at all).
It makes no sense to pre-emptively hate the discussed changes. Let's try them and then discuss the cost/benefit of the output with actual numbers in hand.