On Thursday, August 12, 2010 09:33:17 pm Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Thu, 12.08.10 13:19, Mike McGrath (mmcgrath(a)redhat.com) wrote:
> Since 2006 I counted 18 slips (I think one or two of those may just be a
> single slip listed twice). Lets not yell, lets not flame war, lets not
> point fingers. How can we fix this? It's clearly not one group or one
> individual or we'd just go talk to them. This is a collective failure.
>
> Since 2006 we've slipped at least 16-18 weeks by my count. That's more
> than half of a full release cycle.
While I side with mclasen here and believe that it is a strength of
Fedora that we take the liberty to let cycles slip rather then
compromise quality, I want to mention one thing: on opensuse the "base"
system has a different schedule then the rest of the OS. i.e. the
kernel, gcc, glibc and the low-level tools freeze first, while
everything else may be hacked on a couple of weeks more. Maybe that's
something to adopt for Fedora as well?
Agreed. On both. Slips are not problems (if it's not 6 months slip :D). Slips
happens and are regular solution.
But for core system freeze - it's actually THE MUST! For us, booting system with
working Xorg is the point where we can start working on our packages and
testing!!!
Jaroslav
Lennart
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