Andrew Haley <aph(a)redhat.com> writes:
On 1/26/20 11:52 AM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> Le dimanche 26 janvier 2020 à 10:10 +0000, Andrew Haley a écrit :
>> On 1/26/20 8:43 AM, Nicolas Mailhot via devel wrote:
>>
>>> Java has been in a terminal course in Fedora for a year at
>>> least. You can see how much Red Hat Java leadership cares about the
>>> situation by consulting next week’s Java dev room schedule. Red Hat
>>> is co- organisator of this dev room
>>>
https://fosdem.org/2020/schedule/track/free_java/
>>
>> Okay, I'll bite. I am part of the Red Hat Java leadership.
>>
>> I'm pleased with this year's FOSDEM schedule. People have submitted
>> a lot of interesting-looking talks, and I expect it'll be a good
>> day. I take it that you don't approve of this list, but I don't know
>> what it is you don't like about it.
>
> I was just pointing out that devroom schedules reflect the interests
> and priorities of the people organizing the devroom. And that those
> interests and priorities do not include Java getting in such a state
> that all the Fedora maintainers quit, major apps no loner work, and
> users are migrating elsewhere.
You would not expect a GCC devroom to be concerned about the problems
of all packages written in C and C++, so why would Java be any
different?
Honestly? I totally would expect that. Wouldn't that be better for
everyone?
Compilers aren't special here: every package that wishes to continue to
have users *needs* to care about those users. Maintenance and features
need to be tailored to actual use cases. Otherwise, it's a waste of
time, and just further irritates said users.
Thanks,
--Robbie