On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 16:45 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
Yes. I am aware of that. That's one of the reasons there is
alsamixer
shipped with our distro.
But Lennart, this is not an option for the general Joe. I've used Linux
exclusively for more than 13 years, and I wasn't even aware of this
alsamixer until recently when _you_ mentioned it to me.
For most people, if it's not easily accessible from a convenient UI
(the Volume Control in this case), it _does_not_exist_. And it should
be this way.
For crying out loud, how would someone know to open up a terminal
and run this obscure problem? How would they know about it?
In F8 at least I could control all that from the Volume Control, as
crappy as that was. As soon as I upgraded to F11, I was lost! I had
to file a bug report
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=493790
just to find out about alsamixer! (BTW, this was the problem Dave was
mentioning: the DB was missing entries, and for a very standard piece of
HW, and the user was toast)
I know you mean well by trying to simplify this entire mess (I hated the
old Volume Control, it was too much), but on the other hand this seems
to be a messy problem and taking too much control from the user is a
mistake. At least that's what my intuition is telling me, FWIW.
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Dimi Paun <dimi(a)lattica.com>
Lattica, Inc.