Re: Updates to F8 (was: [Fedora Update] [stable] fakeroot-1.11-19.fc8)

[Jesse Keating]

On Wed, 2008-12-24 at 15:46 +0200, Axel Thimm wrote:
>  
>  As others wrote, the comment part would be either bloated with miriads
>  of uninteresting bug fixes, or a trivial one like "updated to latest
>  upstream release". 
A link to where you can find the upstream release notes would actually
help here.

>  There isn't anything significant standing out, yet some
> dependent
>  projects would like an upgrade. Mentioning this in the update notes
>  could flesh it out, but would be uninteresting to the non-consumers of
>  these projects. Anyway I'll try to make a better comment next time.
>  
>  >
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/MaintainerResponsibility...
>  
>  Some projects are still based on F8, and of course we will drop
>  support for it, but until its EOL F8 is supposed to be well supported,
>  and F8 consumers are begging to push out fixes before it goes EOL -
>  obviously they do intend to remain longer on F8, something we don't
>  actively encourage, but if people are asking for this shortly before
>  Xmas I'm too soft to say nay. ;) 
Having lots of user requests for the update is reasonable, and could
also be mentioned in the notes.  I just want to avoid people doing every
update on every branch whenever they can, even without user demand.

>  Otherwise we should consider an offcial two phase support scheme
> where
>  functionality/enhancements/minor bugs are phased out earlier than the
>  final EOL. That way packagers would have a target line of what makes
>  sense to backpackage and when to not. Currently everyone draws this
>  line arbitrary from the release of the next Fedora release to the
>  actual EOL date. 
I support the general idea of this, a loose guideline, letting
maintainers make their own judgment.

>  E.g. it boils down to different interpretations of what people
>  consider a live/supported release, and what that support means in
>  what proximity of the EOL date.
>  
>  BTW having said all that there is indeed very high demand to keep F8
>  running longer than the usual Fedora release. Just noting and passing
>  on the observation. 
Thanks for that.  One thing you didn't address though, why is this going
directly to stable?

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