Am 13.06.2011 00:00, schrieb Mike Chambers:
On Sun, 2011-06-12 at 23:23 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
> I DO NOT NEED SYSTEMD ON 20 SERVERS HERE BECAUSE THEY ARE STARTING
> FAST ENOUGH AND I NEED NO MAGIC WHICH THINKS KNOWS WHAT TO START
> IN WHICH ORDER SINCE I KNOW WHAT IS RUNNING ON MY SYSTEMS
Why run Fedora itself on 20 servers?
Because it works perfectly with one version behind
Those are mission capable and in a production environment?
yes and this time on F14 but the clock goes fast around
and since F14 is not supporting the hardware of my new
work station (Intel graphics / Sandy Brdige) i have
to play around with F15
A slower and more stable platform that
is free might be better.
Running Fedora since F7 in production environments without
any downtime bcause the OS or any upgrade-problems showing
that i know what i do
That's beside the point, why are you not testing upgrades and
working
out the issues yourself before even trying, in a test environment?
what do you believe what i am doing here?
the test says " i do not want this crap in this early devel-state
on my servers end of the year" nobody knows what "systemd" mislikes
on /mnt/storage because if i uncomment it the system starts without any
issue and manually mounting works
on the other hand this crap tells me the follwoing without bringing httpd up
[root@testserver:~]$ service httpd start
Starting httpd (via systemctl): [ OK ]
[Sun Jun 12 23:30:40 2011] [error] (2)No such file or directory: could not create
/var/run/httpd/httpd.pid
[Sun Jun 12 23:30:40 2011] [error] httpd: could not log pid to file
/var/run/httpd/httpd.pid
well this is the F14 build of Apache but shows me that i will go to hell
if the output of "service start" is no longer trustable as years before
Actually, if they need no magic and are fast enough, why upgrade at
all
right now and wait until everything is worked out?
because i do not update the servers, i try to bring up my test/build-environemt
to get my workstation supported which relys on the same packages as
production-servers (ffmpeg, newer httpd-versions, newer php-versions)
Not telling you what to do, just bringing up different
points/suggestions
i knowing my job very well and because this is so i have to upgrade
to F15 a longer time before the servers and i see NO SINGLE REASON
for systemd on a server at all!