On Tue, 2018-07-10 at 00:40 +0100, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote:
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 at 20:45, Kevin Fenzi <kevin(a)scrye.com>
wrote:
[..]
> This is an approved by FESCo Fedora 29 change that needs to be done
> before the mass rebuild, which is scheduled for the 11th (2 days from now).
>
> 2018-07-11 Mass Rebuild
>
> ( see
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/29/Schedule )
>
> So, really the discussion time for this would have been best in March
> when the change was discussed on list).
OK I found
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/29/ChangeSet#Tracking_15
Which is pointing to
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1551327 .. which is
pointing to
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Remove_GCC_from_BuildRoot
than this page points back to Biugzilla ticket.
If it was somewhere approved (I'm sure that somehow it was) because it
is so little possible to find about real discussion about proposal ..
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1851
One thing that *would* be nice is if, when citing meeting discussions
on Change tickets, FESCo would *link to the meeting where the
discussion happened*, so interested parties can read it. You can find
it quite easily by looking at the ticket dates:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/fesco/fesco.2018-03-02-15.00.log....
but an explicit link would be nice.
I'm not sure did anyone from FESCo where really aware what they
are
approving and/or did anyone where aware that some alternative
proposals have been send but generally not commented/ignored.
The discussion thread on devel@ is a fundamental part of the Change
process, so you can generally assume that FESCo members are going to
have read it when they vote on a Change. Suggesting that they didn't
know what they were voting for seems a bit insulting to the FESCo
members...
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