On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Matthew Miller
<mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 09:04:11AM -0800, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> > So, first, putting together a release is a lot of work. If we're
> > stepping on the toes of the previous releases, are we wasting some of
> > that work?
> I don't see the relevance of that observation. A new version,
> whenever it is released will impact the uptake of the previous. If
I'm saying in this case, we released it before the previous version had
a chance to make as much impact as it could have.
> > Second, from a press/PR point of view, I think we get less total press
> > from having twice-a-year releases than we would from just having one
> > big one. When it's so frequent, it doesn't feel like news.
> Basing our release strategy on the fickleness of press coverage is
> subjective and isn't going to do give any consistent results.
But I didn't say this was due to fickleness. In any case, a release is
*definitely* a marketing event as well as a technical one, and PR is a
legitimate input into planning them.
> > Third, the modularity initiative and the "generational core" give
> > us an opportunity to rethink how we are doing releases entirely.
> Kevin's comment raised some important concerns about this.
I don't want to misrepresent Kevin's concerns, but as I understand
them, they're with modularity in conception rather than to do with
scheduling. I guess there's an intersection in that if we can't do
modularity at all it makes the particular release cycle I suggested
much harder to do — but overall I think it's a separate conversation.
I'm not sure it's much harder to do without modularity. Right now
Fedora could do a Fedora 26 release without any conventional release
media for server and workstation, by just using dnf system-upgrade and
gnome-software. And in a sense that's more like how the incremental
release for rpm-ostree based installations end up working out anyway.
Would Fedora 26.1 be a branch off Rawhide, or a branch off Fedora 26
with relaxed rules about what sorts of things can be significantly
updated? A huge part of the effort for each release is sun baking the
rawhide. And what effect does a once a year major release have on
Rawhide? Or what effect do we want it to have?
--
Chris Murphy