Now that Fedora 25 is out of the door, I'd like to start a
the future of officially-supported (meaning rigorously tested) optical media
for future Fedora releases.
The discussion died off, so let me summarize and propose a plan.
We haven't received as much feedback as I hoped for. Maybe people don't care
enough about optical disks to even respond, or it might be a different reason. But we also
didn't receive as much negative feedback as I feared. So hopefully this does not
negatively impact too many people. The comments under the Phoronix article  weren't
too helpful either, a few rants but no-one cared to follow up with some explanation or
system specification which would be negatively affected for his/her use case. Some of
them, I believe, just read the article title without realizing this only affects
Alpha/Beta media or certain flavors of Final media.
Idea #1: Do not block on optical media issues for Alpha and Beta
This is the less controversial idea, I believe. We received a concern from Matthew, who
was worried that we might find out too late if we don't check it for Alpha/Beta. I
partly agree, but believe we should solve it with an improved QA processes, instead of
bumping the release criteria to apply earlier. He did not object to this, and nobody else
did, so I assume everyone agrees :-) If there are no further concerns, I'll prepare a
criterion adjustment proposal for this.
Idea #2: Do not block on optical media issues for Final release for certain
flavors/image types (Server, netinst)
This is a bolder variant of the previous idea and can be done separately or
combined with it. It makes optical media functionality not guaranteed even
for Final release, but just for certain Fedora flavors or image types for
which it makes sense (not all of them). Which images to cover, that's the
heart of the discussion. If you look into our test matrix again, we
currently block on 6 of them:
* Workstation Live + netinst
* KDE Live
* Server DVD + netinst
* Everything netinst
This was received with reasonably positive reception as well. But it's harder to
compile a list which images should be covered by criteria and which not.
- Workstation Live will be covered, that's clear - we give out these DVDs at events,
it's sent out to the developing world
- Everything netinst is the most universal and generic netinst, so covering that one means
we don't need to cover Workstation netinst and Server netinst. People seem to agree to
- Nobody argued for KDE Live. We probably don't bulk press KDE Live DVDs. If we cover
Workstation Live, it's improbable that only KDE Live would break, but not impossible.
If such thing happens, are people OK with releasing Fedora XX KDE Live only bootable over
- Server DVD is a mixed bag. Matthew didn't include it in his block-list, Adam did.
Neal uses it over IMPI (but netinst would be good enough for him IIUIC, sans some package
deps issue which can be solved using a kickstart). I would appreciate more feedback from
Server folks. Again, we'll cover netinst so it's improbable DVD would break, but
not impossible. Are people OK releasing it only bootable over USB (and PXE)?