On 05/01/15 10:04, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote:
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> On 02/01/15 11:42, Richard Hughes wrote:
>
>>> Because as of now, gnome-software just doesn't fit the workstation bill
>>
>> I think you're misunderstanding what most developers do. We probably
>> spend about 10 minutes installing development packages (on the command
>> line) when setting up a new OS instance. I then spend a year or so of
>> installing or removing the odd application, and a few minutes every
>> week applying updates. I don't think GNOME Software is hugely useful
>> for installing low-level developer packages, which is fine. It doesn't
>> mean it's not a useful application.
>
> I don't know if "most" developers works with more or less just one
> toolchain and environment as you describe. At least "some" actually
> works in a lot of projects, with different development packages and
> sometimes also tools.
>
> That said, what about describing the developer usecase as a project,
> focusing on a user using both GUI and CLI tools?
>
> - Get the sources (if they exist).
> - Install a toolchain, GUI-based or not.
> - Install dependencies: -devel packages, interpreted modules, etc.
> - Install project- or user-specific tools (GUI or not).
> - Keeping the installed sw updated.
>
> Installing the toolchain seems like DevAssistant to me. Besides this, I
> understand your position as if users are supposed to use yum/dnf except
> for GUI development tools and their dependencies (?)
Currently DevAssistant "assistants" (read: plugins) that we have in Fedora are
more of "kickstart a new project and install deps along" rather than
"install a toolchain and perhaps do some other environment setup". This can
however be easily extended by writing different plugins that will do just that.
E.g. I can imagine us having "da prep fedora-dev c" (which will BTW
automatically gain a clickable counterpart in GUI) that will setup development environment
for C (and similar for other languages). We can even provide some choices like
--use-eclipse, --use-whatever-other-IDE, ... I'm willing to put my work into this, but
I'm mostly a Python developer, so I'd need input from people working with
languages.
Does that sound worth pursuing?
FYI: I have filed an RFE with gnome-software regarding ordering of the
search results, which should significantly help bringing DevAssistant
Assistants to the top:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=742388
Tomas Radej