7:55 a.m.
Dne 26.8.2014 14:23, Lennart Poettering napsal(a):
On Tue, 26.08.14 14:18, Vít Ondruch (vondruch(a)redhat.com) wrote:
>>> Recently I have noticed that systemd package dependency is creeping into
>>> some packages where it is not necessary. subversion [1] or rsync [2] are
>>> good examples. Please consider moving daemon parts into independent
>>> subpackages. When I install rsync/subversion, I am typically interested
>>> just in client side.
>>>
>>> Just to be clear, systemd-libs is in minimal build root already, so I am
>>> not complaining about systemd-libs package, but about systemd package.
>> What's the rationale here? I mean, we have so many dependencies, if you
>> want to minimize them, you have a loooong way to go...
> Someone has to start somewhere. It is annoying to install several
> packages, when you expect that only one should be installed. And by
> coincidence, I met several of systemd dependencies during short period
> of time.
What I am not getting: what's the point? I mean, systemd is not exactly
an optional package in Fedora.
You are asking people to split their packages in two, but what's the
real reason for that? If the systemd package isn't optional anyway, why
is this the dep you start with and asking people to complicate things
for?
Lennart
Isn't it optional? I am using mock and can build probably every ruby
package without *systemd* package installed into the build root (I am
not speaking about *systemd-libs*). But once I install one of man,
subversion or rsync packages, systemd is suddenly pulled in, why? Why it
should be?
You can try session like this yourself:
$ mock -r fedora-rawhide-i386 --init
INFO: mock.py version 1.1.41 starting...
Start: init plugins
INFO: selinux enabled
Finish: init plugins
Start: run
Start: lock buildroot
Start: clean chroot
INFO: chroot (/var/lib/mock/fedora-rawhide-i386) unlocked and deleted
Finish: clean chroot
Finish: lock buildroot
Start: chroot init
Start: lock buildroot
Mock Version: 1.1.41
INFO: Mock Version: 1.1.41
INFO: calling preinit hooks
INFO: enabled root cache
Start: unpacking root cache
Finish: unpacking root cache
INFO: enabled yum cache
Start: cleaning yum metadata
Finish: cleaning yum metadata
INFO: enabled ccache
Start: device setup
Finish: device setup
Start: yum update
Finish: yum update
Finish: lock buildroot
Finish: chroot init
INFO: Installed packages:
Finish: run
$ mock -r fedora-rawhide-i386 shell
INFO: mock.py version 1.1.41 starting...
Start: init plugins
INFO: selinux enabled
Finish: init plugins
Start: run
Start: lock buildroot
Start: device setup
Finish: device setup
Start: shell
<mock-chroot>[root@unused-4-226 /]# svn --help
bash: svn: command not found
<mock-chroot>[root@unused-4-226 /]# # Ah, no subversion
<mock-chroot>[root@unused-4-226 /]# logout
Finish: shell
Finish: lock buildroot
$ mock -r fedora-rawhide-i386 --install subversion
INFO: mock.py version 1.1.41 starting...
Start: init plugins
INFO: selinux enabled
Finish: init plugins
Start: run
Mock Version: 1.1.41
INFO: Mock Version: 1.1.41
Start: lock buildroot
INFO: installing package(s): subversion
INFO:
================================================================================
Package Arch Version
Repository Size
================================================================================
Installing:
subversion i686 1.8.10-2.fc22
fedora 1.2 M
Installing for dependencies:
acl i686 2.2.52-7.fc22
fedora 76 k
apr i686 1.5.1-3.fc22
fedora 118 k
apr-util i686 1.5.3-3.fc22
fedora 98 k
cryptsetup-libs i686 1.6.6-1.fc22
fedora 188 k
dbus i686 1:1.8.6-3.fc22
fedora 332 k
dbus-libs i686 1:1.8.6-3.fc22
fedora 169 k
device-mapper i686 1.02.88-2.fc22
fedora 221 k
device-mapper-libs i686 1.02.88-2.fc22
fedora 276 k
fipscheck i686 1.4.1-7.fc22
fedora 25 k
fipscheck-lib i686 1.4.1-7.fc22
fedora 15 k
kmod i686 18-3.fc22
fedora 112 k
kmod-libs i686 18-3.fc22
fedora 62 k
libseccomp i686 2.1.1-5.fc22
fedora 44 k
libserf i686 1.3.7-2.fc22
fedora 58 k
python i686 2.7.8-6.fc22
fedora 91 k
qrencode-libs i686 3.4.2-4.fc22
fedora 56 k
subversion-libs i686 1.8.10-2.fc22
fedora 1.1 M
systemd i686 216-2.fc22
fedora 4.9 M
Transaction Summary
================================================================================
Install 1 Package (+18 Dependent packages)
Total size: 9.1 M
Total download size: 2.6 M
Installed size: 33 M
http://less.cogeco.net/fedora/linux/development/rawhide/i386/os/Packages/...:
[Errno 14] HTTP Error 404 - Not Found
Trying other mirror.
http://less.cogeco.net/fedora/linux/development/rawhide/i386/os/Packages/...:
[Errno 14] HTTP Error 404 - Not Found
Trying other mirror.
Installed:
subversion.i686
0:1.8.10-2.fc22
Dependency Installed:
acl.i686 0:2.2.52-7.fc22 apr.i686
0:1.5.1-3.fc22
apr-util.i686 0:1.5.3-3.fc22 cryptsetup-libs.i686
0:1.6.6-1.fc22
dbus.i686 1:1.8.6-3.fc22 dbus-libs.i686
1:1.8.6-3.fc22
device-mapper.i686 0:1.02.88-2.fc22 device-mapper-libs.i686
0:1.02.88-2.fc22
fipscheck.i686 0:1.4.1-7.fc22 fipscheck-lib.i686
0:1.4.1-7.fc22
kmod.i686 0:18-3.fc22 kmod-libs.i686
0:18-3.fc22
libseccomp.i686 0:2.1.1-5.fc22 libserf.i686
0:1.3.7-2.fc22
python.i686 0:2.7.8-6.fc22 qrencode-libs.i686
0:3.4.2-4.fc22
subversion-libs.i686 0:1.8.10-2.fc22 systemd.i686
0:216-2.fc22
Finish: lock buildroot
Finish: run
I would expect that I'll install subversion, may be some other small
library, but I don't expect to install 33 MB of stuff in 18 packages.
Vít