On Sun, 2010-05-09 at 15:27 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
If you think we should vote, go join debian. I think
they do that there.
First, I never said we should 'vote'. I talked about community
involvement.
Second, if you are looking at the sure path to drive people away,
sending them to "go join Debian" will be it.
(Though, in your defense, I did the same more than once, so I can't
really blame you without sharing the blame)
In the meantime our community is suffering far more
infighting then before because everyone thinks their version is the right
version. As we narrow our focus, people are going to find they fall
outside of that focus.
Bottom line is we should have done what we're doing now long ago, so we're
suffering the consequences as a result. Lots of people with conflicting
views are now here. Our lack of focus has just hurt us.
I fully agree.
With every single word.
I do not agree that that working with zero community input is the way to
achieve a working compromise. (And input does not equal vote)
Have you used OSX lately? They're playing in a whole different league and
a whole different game then we are. It's not even a comparison. Not only
do we copy OSX but we do so poorly. For those that have problem with
apple or want a "more free" OS, Ubuntu's got the share. We're just
not
there. Fedora's board isn't driving users and developers away, our OS is.
The worst part is we won't get those users back with a marginally better
product.
I can't really comment on it. (Don't have OSX, never tried it)
Though, I would imagine that Fedora is compared to Ubuntu and Windows 7;
I doubt that OSX is even on the list.
- Gilboa