Am 04.02.2014 11:57, schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson:
On 02/04/2014 10:39 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 12:16:16PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> If we decide the alternative desktops are a valuable part of Fedora -
>> which seems to be a popular opinion - how do we fit them into a
>> Product-based conception of Fedora?
>>
>> We can have a KDE Product, and an Xfce Product, and an LXDE Product,
>> but...at that point haven't we just re-invented spins? It doesn't seem
>> to quite work with the Product conception.
> I would like to see Products defined by the problem space that they are
> aimed at rather than the technology they're based on. That is, a "Fedora
> Scientific Desktop" is a lot more compelling to me than "Fedora KDE"
-- at
> least as a product. But I don't think there's anything wrong with Fedora KDE
> as either a spin or something else.
>
> For that matter, there could be a "Fedora GNOME" spin distinct from the
> Fedora Workstation product, if there were people really keen to work on it,
> perhap as a showcase of upstream technology without worrying about the
> concerns of the Fedora Workstation WG's particular area of focus. (With
> "people keen to work on it" as the really key phrase.)
But you cannot overlap products as in you cannot have a "Gnome workstation and
"KDE workstation" etc you cannot
have an "Server" product outside what is already defined in the ServerWG nor a
"Cloud" product outside what is
already defined there.
Basically what's happening here is that "default" is being applied to now
three spaces which filled with Red Hat
products and elevated above community contribution just like Gnome was put above all
community contributions as an
"Default".
Do people truly really want us to move forward with this discrimination between
contributions to the project?
honestly going back to only a install DVD with a sane user-UI and dedicate all
the time wasted for the spin/products/discrimination discussions for documentations,
screenshots and howtos would have more benefit for Fedora
there is nothing you can't setup with the "one fits all" DVD or even with
a slim network install if you only knew what to install and how to configure