On 1/9/23 11:18, Neal Gompa wrote:
On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 2:11 PM Daniel P. Berrangé
<berrange(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jan 09, 2023 at 11:47:54AM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
>> On Sun, Jan 08, 2023 at 06:06:47PM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
>>> PS: The impression I get is that everything was deliberately rigged so that
>>> the vote would end up the way it did:
>>>
>>> 1. A new ticket was filed, in order to exclude the participants of the
>>> previous discussion.
>>> 2. The people watching the old ticket were NOT notified.
>>> 3. The Tools Team was NOT notified.
>>> 4. The proponents of the Change, on the other hand, WERE notified.
>>
>> I agree with your earlier post that this did not have enough visibility,
>> enough notice, or enough time. I was certainly taken by surprise, and I was
>> trying to keep an eye on this one in particular. (Having the discussion
>> under "Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting" didn't help it
jump out at me
>> either.)
>
> Holding a FESCo meeting and vote on the very first working day after
> the long xmas / new year holiday is not exactly good timing if you
> want contributors to be broadly aware it is happening[1]. I might
> humbly suggest that next year, any important meetings that would
> naturally fall in the 1st week, be postponed until the 2nd week
> of Jan.
>
We should push out the entire schedule one to two weeks then. We keep
losing time in the schedule, and we shouldn't lose even more.
I think a good solution would be to move the proposal submission deadlines
a month earlier in the schedule. There's only 3 weeks between the
"Changes Requiring Mass Rebuild" deadline and the mass rebuild. I don't
think
3 weeks is really enough time for FESCO review/approval and also getting the
necessary patches reviewed and committed.
- Tom
--
真実はいつも一つ!/ Always, there's only one truth!
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