On 05/03/2010 11:12 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
On Mon, 2010-05-03 at 18:51 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>
> Except karma requirements (which were in force due to the critical path
> process) did NOT prevent this particular regression, nor would a "1 week
> minimum in testing" requirement have prevented it (the update spent 8 days
> in testing). That process DOES NOT WORK. It just adds extra bureaucracy and
> delays the fix for the regression. (But thankfully, direct stable pushes are
> still possible for KDE packages, which allowed us to do one to fix this
> regression quickly.)
>
You are definitely missing the forest for the trees here.
So do you: The karma
stuff will never work and if then only in corner-cases.
In probably the overwhelming majority of cases, all karma does is adding
to Fedora's bureaucracy, without being actually functional.
In the
proposals I've seen, the was no mandate that an update spend a week in
testing, provided it got enough karma before that. If the issue at hand
is so egregious to need a push ASAP, then there should be plenty of
people on hand to snag the update from koji and provide you the
necessary karma nearly immediately.
You are presuming a bug
* affects many people
* is reproducable by many people
* has "user visible" impacts
* users are volunteering to provide feedback
These presumptions are all wrong and do not apply.