Re: F41 Change Proposal: Switch to DNF5 (system-wide)

[Jan Kolarik]

Hi guys,

the dnf-automatic command will be obsoleted.
>  
Oh, sorry about that. This portion of the text was inadvertently altered
during the review process. I've already corrected the text on the wiki.

The dnf-automatic command will still be available, now provided as a plugin
and functionally compatible with dnf4. Although the configuration files'
location has changed, it will be documented in the dnf4 vs. dnf5 changes
documentation <https://dnf5.readthedocs.io/en/latest/changes.html>;.

Thanks,
Jan

On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 12:06 AM Kevin Fenzi <kevin(a)scrye.com&gt; wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 03, 2024 at 11:57:48AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Wed, 2024-04-03 at 14:27 -0400, Przemek Klosowski via devel wrote:
> > > On 4/3/24 06:36, Aoife Moloney wrote:
> > > > the dnf-automatic command will be obsoleted.
> >
>  
> > >
https://dnf5.readthedocs.io/en/latest/changes.html does not say
> anything
> > > about automatic updates, and
> >
>  
> > >
https://packages.fedoraproject.org/pkgs/dnf5/dnf5-plugin-automatic/
> >
>  
> > > simply suggests that
dns update be executed from systemd timers or
> cron
> > > jobs.
> >
>  
> >
>  
> > > dns-automatic provided a simple interface to a
setup-and-forget
> > > automatic updates; will DNF5 leave it to be set up by hand?
> >
>  
> > > I am asking because
systemd timers have surprising behavior for
> > > suspendable systems, which leads to problems if updates are scheduled
> > > for off-hours.
> >
>  
> > > My experience is that
even |WakeSystem=true does not make them
> reliable,
> > > but I am not sure how to debug this (because the system is suspended,
> heh).
> >
>  
>
>  
> >
We do use dnf-automatic quite extensively within infra, I think. Has
> > this been discussed with infra?
>  
> Not that I know of. Yes, we do use dnf-automatic all over
the place. ;(
>  
> kevin
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