8:31 p.m.
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#fedora-bugzappers: F14 Blocker Bug Review
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Meeting started by jlaska at 16:00:07 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2010-10-01/f-14-blocke...
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Meeting summary
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* Gathering critical mass (jlaska, 16:00:27)
* The basics ... (jlaska, 16:04:55)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(jlaska, 16:05:31)
* LINK: http://tinyurl.com/2fqpazy (jlaska, 16:06:10)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_14_Final_Release_Criteria
(jlaska, 16:08:20)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=584328 (jlaska, 16:08:33)
* AGREED: 584328 - tentatively accepted as a valid release blocker.
Impacts dmraid installation using custom partitioning on at least 1
system (unknown if more) (jlaska, 16:20:15)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=636621 (jlaska, 16:20:26)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=584328 (jlaska, 16:21:01)
* ACTION: 584328 - dlehman has a fix inprogress, may require
additional access to the affected system to test, will follow-up in
bug (jlaska, 16:26:31)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=636621 (jlaska, 16:26:52)
* AGREED: 636621 - No criteria for loglevel= boot parameter, agreed to
move to nice-to-have list (jlaska, 16:36:38)
* ACTION: dlehman - patch in hand for 636621, will cherry-pick from
master before next build (jlaska, 16:38:20)
* IDEA: think about installer boot option loglevel= and if criteria
need adjustment (jlaska, 16:39:17)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=627388 (jlaska, 16:39:55)
* AGREED: 627388 - unclear whether the reported problem still exists,
awaiting feedback from reporter. May remove from list next meeting
if no changes (jlaska, 16:43:20)
* Leave in needinfo? requesting feedback from reporter (jlaska,
16:43:40)
* Outstanding question for msivak in bug to address a new issue
related to VNC prompt on text-mode installs (jlaska, 16:44:11)
* LINK: http://tinyurl.com/2drr5rs (jlaska, 16:44:53)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=635778 (jlaska, 16:45:03)
* 635778 - currently in MODIFIED, fix available in 14.18, awaiting
anaconda build to test (jlaska, 16:47:13)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=627789 (jlaska, 16:48:05)
* 627789 - currently in MODIFIED, fix available in 14.18, awaiting
anaconda build to test (jlaska, 16:49:06)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=621685 (jlaska, 16:49:36)
* 621685 included and tested in F-14-Beta, moved to CLOSED ERRATA
(jlaska, 16:50:06)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=621469 (jlaska, 16:50:26)
* 621469 included and tested in F-14-Beta, moved to CLOSED ERRATA
(jlaska, 16:50:59)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=631987 (jlaska, 16:52:51)
* AGREED: 631987 is a valid release blocker per criteria that all
applications listed under the Applications menu must withstand a
basic functionality test and not crash after [...] normal use
(jlaska, 16:55:37)
* mclasen notes a fix is available upstream and should be included
when brasero is bumped to 2.32 (jlaska, 16:57:15)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=637339 (jlaska, 16:59:00)
* All applications listed under the Applications menu must withstand a
basic functionality test (jlaska, 17:00:37)
* AGREED: 637339 - accepted as release blocker, appears to affect
basic empathy functionality (connecting to yahoo) and is covered by
final release criteria (jlaska, 17:02:10)
* (Meeting topic: F14 Blocker Bug Review) (jlaska, 17:02:18)
* 637339 - a fix is pending submissino to stable, selinux-policy -7
has passed critpath requirements (jlaska, 17:02:57)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=636118 (jlaska, 17:03:13)
* AGREED: 636118 - accepted as release blocker, affects basic
functionality of swell-foop (included on Live image) and is covered
by final release criteria (jlaska, 17:07:14)
* ACTION: 636118 - halfline (or someone from desktop) needed to
investigate problem (jlaska, 17:08:51)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=639130 (jlaska, 17:09:18)
* AGREED: 639130 - not a release blocker or nice-to-have.
gnome-games-extra is not provided on the Live image or DVD, does not
meet release criteria (jlaska, 17:14:54)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=623824 (jlaska, 17:15:18)
* AGREED: 623824 - not a release blocker, no criteria exist to cover
display to external monitors (jlaska, 17:21:49)
* ACTION: ajax and reporter continue to triage the issue with F14 test
results (jlaska, 17:22:07)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=636585 (jlaska, 17:22:48)
* AGREED: 636585 - not enough information to determine impacted
release criteria. Recommend keeping on list until next meeting.
Will remove if no feedback then. (jlaska, 17:28:00)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=632814 (jlaska, 17:29:04)
* AGREED: 632814 - a valid release blocker. Fixed and awaiting bodhi
karma (jlaska, 17:34:06)
* ACTION: 632814 - needs bodhi karma feedback from KDE users (jlaska,
17:34:41)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=634182 (jlaska, 17:35:01)
* AGREED: 634182 - not a release blocker, no longer impacting KDE spin
size (jlaska, 17:39:04)
* LINK:
http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/lxde/logs/20100930....
(jlaska, 17:41:10)
* LINK: http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/ has
logs for each (nirik, 17:41:12)
* after inspection of nightly spin logs, appears 634182 may be
resolved already (jlaska, 17:44:39)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=630226 (jlaska, 17:45:30)
* ACTION: adamw to close 630226 (adamw, 17:48:29)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=639138 (jlaska, 17:49:12)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=584328 (adamw,
17:49:38)
* AGREED: 639138 - does not impact release criteria, but agreed to
move to nice-to-have (jlaska, 17:56:02)
* ACTION: 639138 - bcl owns parted, will review and potentially
commiting fix+build (jlaska, 17:58:45)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=629192 (jlaska, 17:59:16)
* AGREED: 629192 - accepted as a release blocker because affects basic
functionality for pino which is included on Live image (jlaska,
18:09:49)
* ACTION: 629192 - adamw cc'd mclasen on the bz and plans to email
desktop(a)l.fh.org to raise awareness of the issue (jlaska, 18:12:27)
* Intermission ... will return @ 19:00 UTC (jlaska, 18:16:02)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=631591 (jlaska, 19:02:51)
* jforbes anticipates 631591 will be resolved in the final qemu
release for F-14, but shouldn't block release (jlaska, 19:10:21)
* AGREED: 631591 - not accepted as blocker. No criteria exist for
running XP as a guest. (jlaska, 19:11:02)
* if not blocker or nice-to-have, final build must be completed by
10/18 (jlaska, 19:11:43)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=639393 (jlaska, 19:11:52)
* LINK:
https://fedorahosted.org/pipermail/autoqa-results/2010-October/042369.html
(jlaska, 19:14:57)
* ACTION: 639393 - adamw will propose release criteria to test@ list
to prevent package dependency/conflicts in F-14-Final (jlaska,
19:31:44)
* AGREED: 639393 - conditionally accepted as a release blocker pending
adjustment to release criteria to accept all installable package
dependency/conflicts (jlaska, 19:32:10)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=635821 (jlaska, 19:33:54)
* ACTION: 635821 - jlaska will ping gavin to make sure he knows this
is a release blocker (jlaska, 19:38:01)
* AGREED: 635821 - accepted as a release blocker per Alpha criteria
that installer must be able to submit bugs to bugzilla (jlaska,
19:38:23)
* (jlaska, 19:38:38)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=590883 (jlaska, 19:38:42)
* ACTION: dwalsh - submit bodhi update for newer selinux-policy to fix
590883 (jlaska, 19:40:50)
* AGREED: 590883 - accepted as a release blocker, fixed but not yet
available for testing (jlaska, 19:43:15)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=639391 (jlaska, 19:43:38)
* AGREED: 639391 - tentatively accepted as a release blocker based on
proposed criteria update to include all package dependency problems
(jlaska, 19:55:23)
* ACTION: 639391 - msuchy needed to resolve conflict (jlaska,
19:56:52)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=626205 (jlaska, 19:57:21)
* AGREED: 626205 - no action taken, need to reach out to sgallagh for
help determining impact (jlaska, 20:04:28)
* ACTION: jlaska to discuss impact of 626205 with sgallagh (jlaska,
20:04:47)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=637405 (jlaska, 20:05:14)
* AGREED: 637405 - not accepted as release blocker, accepted as
nice-to-have. Will take if fix is available (jlaska, 20:11:17)
* ACTION: Peter_Gordon - investigate and recommend solution for bug
637405 (jlaska, 20:12:00)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528022 (jlaska, 20:12:21)
* AGREED: 528022 is technically a blocker under criterion 'In most
cases, there must be no SELinux 'AVC: denied' messages or abrt crash
notifications on initial boot and subsequent login', but the alert
on vbetool's behaviour is explicitly desired; if vbetool cannot be
adjusted we should except this alert from the criteria (adamw,
20:28:46)
* ACTION: adamw to follow up with dwalsh and vbetool maintainer to
discover if there's any practical way to fix this (adamw, 20:28:49)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=603386 (jlaska, 20:29:10)
* AGREED: 603386 - not accepted as a blocker bug, no criteria exist to
guaruntee a smooth display transition during boot/login on all
hardware (jlaska, 20:33:03)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=623956 (jlaska, 20:33:14)
* AGREED: 623956 - not accepted as release blocker, acceptable for
nice-to-have. VESA is not expected to work in KVM (cirrus)
(jlaska, 20:36:55)
* willing to accept as a nice-to-have issue, if the fix is low-risk
(jlaska, 20:37:15)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=628528 (jlaska, 20:37:39)
* AGREED: 628528 - need more information from maintainer+reporter to
determine impact. Accepted as nice-to-have in interim (jlaska,
20:44:18)
* NTH review process start! (adamw, 20:46:24)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=627073 (adamw, 20:46:26)
* AGREED: 627073 acceptednth (adamw, 20:48:32)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=632805 (adamw, 20:48:35)
* AGREED: 632805 acceptednth (adamw, 20:51:13)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=634556 (adamw, 20:51:25)
* AGREED: 634556 acceptednth (adamw, 20:54:03)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=634777 (adamw, 20:54:13)
* AGREED: 634777 need more info on exactly what strings are affected;
if things that are part of the fedora 'chrome' on the page are
affected, than we accept (adamw, 20:58:15)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=635239 (adamw, 20:58:44)
* AGREED: 635239 adamw drops proposal as nth bug pending further
testing (adamw, 20:59:36)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=636170 (adamw, 21:00:17)
* AGREED: 636170 acceptednth (adamw, 21:02:40)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=636227 (adamw, 21:02:49)
* AGREED: 636227 acceptednth (adamw, 21:06:05)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638656 (adamw, 21:06:39)
* AGREED: 638656 acceptednth (adamw, 21:12:37)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=542255 (adamw, 21:13:24)
* AGREED: 542255 acceptednth (adamw, 21:14:56)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=623742 (adamw, 21:15:05)
* AGREED: 623742 acceptednth (adamw, 21:17:31)
* open floor (adamw, 21:17:42)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=639280 (adamw, 21:19:11)
* AGREED: 639280 accepted as nice-to-have, and would definitely like
to see it fixed (adamw, 21:24:42)
Meeting ended at 21:27:56 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* 584328 - dlehman has a fix inprogress, may require additional access
to the affected system to test, will follow-up in bug
* dlehman - patch in hand for 636621, will cherry-pick from master
before next build
* 636118 - halfline (or someone from desktop) needed to investigate
problem
* ajax and reporter continue to triage the issue with F14 test results
* 632814 - needs bodhi karma feedback from KDE users
* adamw to close 630226
* 639138 - bcl owns parted, will review and potentially commiting
fix+build
* 629192 - adamw cc'd mclasen on the bz and plans to email
desktop(a)l.fh.org to raise awareness of the issue
* 639393 - adamw will propose release criteria to test@ list to prevent
package dependency/conflicts in F-14-Final
* 635821 - jlaska will ping gavin to make sure he knows this is a
release blocker
* dwalsh - submit bodhi update for newer selinux-policy to fix 590883
* 639391 - msuchy needed to resolve conflict
* jlaska to discuss impact of 626205 with sgallagh
* Peter_Gordon - investigate and recommend solution for bug 637405
* adamw to follow up with dwalsh and vbetool maintainer to discover if
there's any practical way to fix this
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* adamw
* adamw to close 630226
* 629192 - adamw cc'd mclasen on the bz and plans to email
desktop(a)l.fh.org to raise awareness of the issue
* 639393 - adamw will propose release criteria to test@ list to
prevent package dependency/conflicts in F-14-Final
* adamw to follow up with dwalsh and vbetool maintainer to discover if
there's any practical way to fix this
* bcl
* 639138 - bcl owns parted, will review and potentially commiting
fix+build
* dlehman
* 584328 - dlehman has a fix inprogress, may require additional access
to the affected system to test, will follow-up in bug
* dlehman - patch in hand for 636621, will cherry-pick from master
before next build
* halfline
* 636118 - halfline (or someone from desktop) needed to investigate
problem
* jlaska
* 635821 - jlaska will ping gavin to make sure he knows this is a
release blocker
* jlaska to discuss impact of 626205 with sgallagh
* **UNASSIGNED**
* ajax and reporter continue to triage the issue with F14 test results
* 632814 - needs bodhi karma feedback from KDE users
* dwalsh - submit bodhi update for newer selinux-policy to fix 590883
* 639391 - msuchy needed to resolve conflict
* Peter_Gordon - investigate and recommend solution for bug 637405
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* dlehman (35)
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* jsmith (23)
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