On 6/25/20 4:11 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 3:38 PM Jan Kratochvil
<jan.kratochvil(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 21:21:37 +0200, Chris Adams wrote:
>> Unless you are doing kernel development, why do you care what the kernel
>> messages say? On my systems, they go by too fast to read anyway.
>
> When it locks up (during updating firmware on my Athlon machine) I see just
> a black screen. When I reboot without rhgb/quiet the problem is not
> reproducible as it happens only rarely. There are many reasons why kernels
> sometimes fail to boot, why to give up on troubleshooting?
I think we need more complete bug reports about these kinds of
problems, and fix them, rather than default to showing startup scroll.
I don't have this problem very often and I use rawhide kernels. And
where I run stable kernels I can't even remember the last time I
needed to see the startup scroll for troubleshooting. It's easy to get
it unhidden though - hit Esc.
I agree with your points, but pressing ESC only reverses the "rhgb"
part, the kernel output is still "quiet".