On 06/14/2011 11:43 AM, Somebody in the thread at some point said:
> For what's left, eg ARM9+ that you can run normal Linux and
Fedora on,
> ipv6 is going to be workable if the memory allows. Looking a year or
> two ahead, where "Embedded" will extend to Cortex A15 quad core, and
> IPv6 will presumably have gained traction, the tradeoffs involved with
> cutdown environments like busybox / dropbear and IPv4-only are going to
> start being harder to accept.
I talk to a lot of embedded people. Tiny machines are not going to
disappear anytime soon - they just go into smaller and smaller gadgets.
Me too... I think maybe considerations valid at the low-end devices you
know very well are blinding you a bit to how applicable those
considerations are, eg -->
For example, there are still a noticeable segment of NOMMU CPUs,
meaning
if you really target embedded, you need to learn how to live with vfork
only.
... NOMMU and ARM7 that can't run Fedora are to discussions about
architecture of Fedora.
You can't just handwave embedded away by assuming that
"embedded will
get big enough for me to not really care about optimizing for size".
My point was that pressure against bloat is good.
But when I look at compromises made in stuff commonly used in ARM7 /
cross world, I wouldn't want to see that happening in Fedora in the name
of a debloating jihad that simply doesn't matter on most of the
platforms it targets.
Still, I hope this thread at least reminded people that it doesn't hurt
to have a modest memory footprint ^^
-Andy