Re: [Fedora-packaging] Re: New db4 update and package changes
On Sunday 09 September 2007, Robert Scheck wrote:
On Sat, 08 Sep 2007, Ville Skyttä wrote:
> On Saturday 08 September 2007, Michel Salim wrote:
> > On 11/08/2007, Robert Scheck <robert(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> > > thousands of -devel packages is in my not so humble opinion what the
> > > reporter of bug #220484 would like to see. And I don't believe,
> > > there's any real benefit of doing so, so please avoid it. We're
> > > living in the 3rd year- thousand and I don't want to calculate what 5
> > > MB of disk space could cost.
> >
> > Thirded. Consider that good ol' Slackware does not even split
> > development files out of their main packages!
>
> 5MB is actually pretty much if you consider setups on space constrained
> media such as live CDs, small flash disks etc. There have been other
> related lengthy discussions about things such as trimming package
> changelogs which would result in the same order of magnitude space
> savings when installed, so there are people who do care about numbers
> like that.
Ehem. I talked about 5 MB for splitting the -devel package itself. Since
when are db4-devel packages installed on live CDs, small flash disks etc.?
And no, it's not the same. So please don't bring my argumentation out of
context!
That wasn't my intention, sorry if I offended you. Your later (than your
mailing list post) comment in #220484 seems very much opposed to the whole
split and doesn't mention devel packages at all. Michel's reply above (which
as the quote indicators show, is primarily what I replied to) seems to me to
be using Slackware as a proof-of-concept argument that not caring about size
overhead of development files in packages in general works just fine. And I
don't actually see a db4-cxx-devel in the packages tree nor in the db4.spec
CVS history.
Ville, I agree with you 5 MB are much for tiny mediums or embedded
devices, but this is not related to -devel packages itself.
And I agree that splitting foo-devel into foo-bar-devel and foo-quux-devel is
not usually that interesting if space considerations are the only thing
driving it.