On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 04:26:35PM -0400, Gerald Henriksen wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jun 2023 21:06:40 +0100, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>Obviously many will have seen:
>
>https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/furthering-evolution-centos-stream
>
>and see, where EL (contributors like you of fedora/EPEL) have been knocked down:
>
>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2215299
>
>Let us face it our efforts with the Fedora project are not valued and it is a means
nothing to the
>new corporate IBM/Red Hat enterprise systems that we have to struggle to get access
to srpms, to
>make a community. What is community now to Red Hat?
My interpretation of the blog post, combined with recent actions
towards Fedora by Red Hat, is that Red Hat now views CentOS Stream as
the new "Fedora" for basing future versions of RHEL.
IMHO this is a mis-reading of the above blog / general situation. The
flow of development for future versions of RHEL is absolutely still
originating in Fedora, where Rawhide feeds into ELN (Enterprise Linux
Next), which then becomes the next major RHEL release.
Fedora -> ELN -> RHEL-$NEXT
Nothing described in that blog post above changes this process, so
what's written there doesn't have any direct impact on Fedora. If you
look at rawhide / eln branches in Fedora dist-git today you can see
ongoing changes in many packages that will feed into RHEL-10. CentOS
Stream is *not* the new Fedora. Fedora remains critical to future RHEL.
CentOS Stream is the development path *within* a major RHEL release
eg
CentOS Stream 9 ----------------------------------->
| | |
V V V
RHEL-9.1.0 RHEL-9.2.0 RHEL-9.x.0
| | |
| | |
V V V
The main effect of the blog post I see is that the bug fixes / CVEs
that go into RHEL-9.1.z, 9.2.z, 9.x.z streams are no longer going
to be freely available - only the initial content of each poinmt
release in available from CentOS Stream.
This doesn't impact Fedora, but will certainly impact the various
RHEL rebuilds whether community based (AlmaLinux, Rocky Linux),
or fully commercial (Oracle OEL). Those distros can still provide
the initial point releases, but will have to do all the work to
figure out backports for bug fixes/CVEs/etc within the release.
This is going to be a serious burden for those distros.
With regards,
Daniel
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