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> Nice of y'all to allow yourself longer release cycles while denying it
> to fedora community developers.
Not fair--see below.
My dad used to say something about things not being fair....
Seth, you've actually answered your own question. Based on what
I have
seen inside of Red Hat, 6 months is a release cycle that matches well
the challenge of the problem with the nature and resources of the
present community.
*boggle*
Where are you getting this?
Even with the surprise 7 day delay, FC4 is great, as
was FC3 vs. the targets we all set.
For fedora CORE maybe - but there is Fedora Extras and there's A LOT of
infrastructure work to keep fedora from being completely manually
managed.
I even think that your suggestion
of a one-time-for-now 9 month cycle could make sense.
good.
But the stuff that's required to hit an 18 month target is just
Night And Day
different.
I wasn't recommending an 18 month target, I was saying that I thought
lengthening the fc devel cycle would help us get some things done that
we just haven't had the time to do.
It may look easy--copying and criticizing the decisions we
make is pretty easy stuff compared to sorting out the initial plan and
keeping enough of the contingencies viable that the release is relevant
by the time it sees daylight. I'm not saying that Red Hat is the only
one trying to make these guesses and trying to following them through to
their logical conclusion--there are companies and community efforts
alike that try this stuff every day. But I am saying that it's a
sufficiently difficult and resource-intensive task that it's Just Not
Fair to suggest that simple goal-setting will lead to simple goal
attainment. Running a marathon is hard, but running up up Mt. Everest
is a different ballgame, and pretending it's not is reckless.
You're damn right. So I guess you can understand why I'm a bit pissed at
being talked down to by you when I sat in a meeting 3 months ago about
the fedora extras buildsystem process and I was the only one who
volunteered to work on it. Why? B/c everyone else was too busy. Hell, I
was too busy, too but I wanted it to happen and it appeared that was the
only way it was GOING to happen.
Someone else set the objectives and I met them.
So get down off your high horse about "copying and criticizing". I don't
when, exactly, I get to stop paying dues but I think it needs to be
soon.
-sv