On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 05:11:52PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
I was asked to start this in today's Server meeting. The genesis
for
me was, I have more questions than answers and I'm fairly convinced
I'm not the only person who's kinda shrugging not knowing what all the
questions even are. Answers are important too, but good questions to
properly explore scope and liabilities have to come first.
Cool -- thanks for doing this.
Cloud WG folks had decided a while ago to focus on Atomic Host, and
sounds like now they only want to do that, and form a new Atomic WG.
[1][2]
*nod* -- that's the plan, at least for the WG and Edition. There's
still interest in working on cloud technologies in general in the SIG,
though.
I see 8 base images for Cloud that aren't rpm-ostree based. Are
they
in need of a new home? Who's using them? Are they all needed? Does it
make sense for Server WG to produce the non-Atomic Cloud deliverable
images?
Yes, at least some of them are in need of a new home. I don't know if
they are all needed. I know a non-zero but small number of people are
using them for their basic intended purpose (for building scale-out
infrastructure in EC2 or OpenStack) but I know a lot of other people
are using them as a convenient way to get a small-ish Fedora VM image
to run locally.
Being contrary, I wondered about consolidation as a solution rather
than adding another WG and product. [3] Does anyone see Cloud WG, or
Server WG as spread too thinly? What estimate do you have for overlap
in work between Cloud and Server? Is there an economy of scale by
combining them? And is it both useful and practical to have subgroups
within a WG, to split out the sub variants of Server: hardware, cloud,
atomic host?
The more I think about this, the more I like your merger suggestion.
Server and Workstation WGs have expressed interest in moving to
rpm-ostree based deployments also. So I'm confused by what an Atomic
WG would produce that's unique. There are huge differences between
See this in-progress document:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Objectives/ProjectFAO
The goal of the Fedora Atomic/Openshift edition would be a multi-node
cluster based arond Atomic and OpenShift Origin.
It might be that the Cloud and Server PRD refreshes help sort some
of
this stuff out too.
Yes. :)
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Matthew Miller
<mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org>
Fedora Project Leader