Orphaning/Intent to orphan the entire pulp stack

[Patrick Creech]

The pulp team is orphaning the pulp 2 stack in fedora's repositories.

The upstream project is focusing the majority of it's development efforts on pulp 3,
and is removing fedora support for the pulp 2 line.

This will also assist other package's transitions to python 3 only, as there have been
cases where pulp prevented them from dropping python 2 in fedora.

Packages being orphaned:
- pulp
- pulp-rpm
- pulp-puppet
- pulp-ostree
- pulp-docker
- pulp-python
- python-crane

[Miro Hrončok]

On 12. 11. 18 22:37, Patrick Creech wrote:
>  The pulp team is orphaning the pulp 2 stack in fedora's
> repositories.
>  
>  The upstream project is focusing the majority of it's development efforts on pulp 3,
> and is removing fedora support for the pulp 2 line.
>  
>  This will also assist other package's transitions to python 3 only, as there have
> been cases where pulp prevented them from dropping python 2 in fedora. 
If you orphan it, but not retire it, it won't help much.
>  Packages being orphaned:
>  - pulp
>  - pulp-rpm
>  - pulp-puppet
>  - pulp-ostree
>  - pulp-docker
>  - pulp-python
>  - python-crane 

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[Patrick Creech]

On Tue, 2018-11-13 at 07:56 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:
>  On 12. 11. 18 22:37, Patrick Creech wrote:
>  > The pulp team is orphaning the pulp 2 stack in fedora's repositories.
>  > 
>  > The upstream project is focusing the majority of it's development efforts on
> pulp 3, and is removing fedora support for the pulp 2 line.
>  > 
>  > This will also assist other package's transitions to python 3 only, as there
> have been cases where pulp prevented them from dropping python 2 in fedora.
>  
>  If you orphan it, but not retire it, it won't help much. 
Ah, I was under the (possibly incorrect?) assumption that orphaning was the beginning step
in retiring? 

The resources I saw really only said that to retire it had to be orphaned, or at least
that's what I gleaned from those articles.

Thoughts on how to proceed, since a good portion are already 'orphaned', and the
rest are waiting on action from the other 'owner'

>  > Packages being orphaned:
>  > - pulp
>  > - pulp-rpm
>  > - pulp-puppet
>  > - pulp-ostree
>  > - pulp-docker
>  > - pulp-python
>  > - python-crane
>  
>

[Patrick Creech]

>  Thoughts on how to proceed, since a good portion are already
> 'orphaned', and the rest are waiting on action from the other 'owner'
I did a little more digging this morning, and found the retire steps.  I have retired on
master the same packages listed below.  Apologies for the confusion.

>  > > Packages being orphaned:
>  > > - pulp
>  > > - pulp-rpm
>  > > - pulp-puppet
>  > > - pulp-ostree
>  > > - pulp-docker
>  > > - pulp-python
>  > > - python-crane

[Stephen John Smoogen]

On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 09:39, Patrick Creech <pcreech(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  On Tue, 2018-11-13 at 07:56 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:
>  > On 12. 11. 18 22:37, Patrick Creech wrote:
>  > > The pulp team is orphaning the pulp 2 stack in fedora's repositories.
>  > >
>  > > The upstream project is focusing the majority of it's development efforts
> on pulp 3, and is removing fedora support for the pulp 2 line.
>  > >
>  > > This will also assist other package's transitions to python 3 only, as
> there have been cases where pulp prevented them from dropping python 2 in fedora.
>  >
>  > If you orphan it, but not retire it, it won't help much.
>
>  Ah, I was under the (possibly incorrect?) assumption that orphaning was the beginning
> step in retiring?
>
>  The resources I saw really only said that to retire it had to be orphaned, or at least
> that's what I gleaned from those articles.
>
>  Thoughts on how to proceed, since a good portion are already 'orphaned', and the
> rest are waiting on action from the other 'owner'
>  
It is usually correct when you have software which can be kept up by
someone else. If the code is dead and to be replaced by another.. then
retiring is correct.


>  > > Packages being orphaned:
>  > > - pulp
>  > > - pulp-rpm
>  > > - pulp-puppet
>  > > - pulp-ostree
>  > > - pulp-docker
>  > > - pulp-python
>  > > - python-crane
>  >
>  >
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