F24 Self Contained Change: Ping IPv6

[Jan Kurik]

= Proposed Self Contained Change: Ping IPv6 =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/PingIpv6#Ping_IPv6

Change owner(s):
* Jan Synacek, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos <nmav AT redhat DOT com>

ping should be able to work with IPv6 and IPv4 addresses, eliminating
the need for multiple tools.

== Detailed Description ==
The current system of using different software (ping vs ping6) for
different versions of the IP stack is broken. As the IPv6 transition
moves ahead its unreasonable to expect users to know in advance the IP
version of a peer referenced using a DNS name, nor expect them to
switch tools based on the types of IPs they are testing.

ping must work with both protocol versions by default.

== Scope ==
Proposal owners:
* The ping tool should be able to test any address provided on command
line, being IPv6 or IPv4. That means that the ping tool from iputils
as we include it in Fedora needs to be modified.

Other developers: N/A (not a System Wide Change)

Release engineering: N/A (not a System Wide Change)

List of deliverables: N/A (not a System Wide Change)

Policies and guidelines: N/A (not a System Wide Change)

Trademark approval: N/A (not needed for this Change)
-- 
Jan Kuřík
Platform & Fedora Program Manager
Red Hat Czech s.r.o., Purkynova 99/71, 612 45 Brno, Czech Republic

[Scott Schmit]

On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 09:42:11AM +0100, Jan Kurik wrote:
>  = Proposed Self Contained Change: Ping IPv6 =
>  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/PingIpv6#Ping_IPv6
>  
>  Change owner(s):
>  * Jan Synacek, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos <nmav AT redhat DOT com>
>  
>  ping should be able to work with IPv6 and IPv4 addresses, eliminating
>  the need for multiple tools.
>  
>  == Detailed Description ==
>  The current system of using different software (ping vs ping6) for
>  different versions of the IP stack is broken. As the IPv6 transition
>  moves ahead its unreasonable to expect users to know in advance the IP
>  version of a peer referenced using a DNS name, nor expect them to
>  switch tools based on the types of IPs they are testing.
>  
>  ping must work with both protocol versions by default.
>  
>  == Scope ==
>  Proposal owners:
>  * The ping tool should be able to test any address provided on command
>  line, being IPv6 or IPv4. That means that the ping tool from iputils
>  as we include it in Fedora needs to be modified. 
Are you intending to make this change to tracepath as well, or only
ping?

IMHO, it doesn't make sense to fix ping and leave tracepath alone,
especially considering that they're in the same package.

I was also wondering about traceroute/traceroute6 but some testing shows
that "traceroute [ipv6 address]" already works out of the box.  It might
be a good idea to make a note of that in your Change page for others
that might not be aware of that.

[Sander Hoentjen]

On 01/22/2016 09:42 AM, Jan Kurik wrote:
>  = Proposed Self Contained Change: Ping IPv6 =
>  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/PingIpv6#Ping_IPv6
>
>  Change owner(s):
>  * Jan Synacek, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos <nmav AT redhat DOT com>
>
>  ping should be able to work with IPv6 and IPv4 addresses, eliminating
>  the need for multiple tools.
>
>  == Detailed Description ==
>  The current system of using different software (ping vs ping6) for
>  different versions of the IP stack is broken. As the IPv6 transition
>  moves ahead its unreasonable to expect users to know in advance the IP
>  version of a peer referenced using a DNS name, nor expect them to
>  switch tools based on the types of IPs they are testing.
>
>  ping must work with both protocol versions by default.
>
>  == Scope ==
>  Proposal owners:
>  * The ping tool should be able to test any address provided on command
>  line, being IPv6 or IPv4. That means that the ping tool from iputils
>  as we include it in Fedora needs to be modified.
>
>  
Will this include a -4 and a -6 option to force protocol version?