Docs meeting summary -- 12 March 2012

[Ben Cotton]

Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll Call  (bcotton, 13:00:50)

* Follow up on last week's action items  (bcotton, 13:04:50)
  * ACTION: bcotton to check on guide owners for F17  (bcotton,
    13:05:04)
  * ACTION: suehle to nicely poke lingering * beat owners  (bcotton,
    13:05:52)

* Release Notes  (bcotton, 13:06:11)
  * If your beat is done, don't forget to mark a 1 in the table
    (bcotton, 13:07:16)
  * ACTION: bcotton to send a note to Docs ML for beat-writing party
    (bcotton, 13:15:53)
  * AGREED: Beat Writing Party at 3pm EDT on Wednesday 14 March
    (bcotton, 13:16:10)

* Guide Status  (bcotton, 13:25:41)
  * LINK:
    http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-17/f-17-docs-tree-tasks.html
    (bcotton, 13:25:53)

* Outstanding BZ Tickets  (bcotton, 13:37:46)
  * LINK: http://tinyurl.com/lbrq84   (bcotton, 13:37:54)

* Open Floor Discussion  (bcotton, 13:39:13)
  * ACTION: pkovar to address meeting times on docs ml  (bcotton,
    13:47:33)

Meeting ended at 13:49:08 UTC.

Action Items
------------
* bcotton to check on guide owners for F17
* suehle to nicely poke lingering * beat owners
* bcotton to send a note to Docs ML for beat-writing party
* pkovar to address meeting times on docs ml

Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* bcotton
  * bcotton to check on guide owners for F17
  * bcotton to send a note to Docs ML for beat-writing party
* pkovar
  * pkovar to address meeting times on docs ml
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * suehle to nicely poke lingering * beat owners

People Present (lines said)
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* jjmcd (54)
* bcotton (51)
* pkovar (18)
* claneys (18)
* shaiton (8)
* randomuser (3)
* zodbot (3)
* fnadge (1)
* LoKoMurdoK (1)
* sgordon (1)

Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-03-12/fedora_docs.20...
Minutes (text):
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-03-12/fedora_docs.20...
Log:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-03-12/fedora_docs.20...


-- 
Ben Cotton
Fedora Docs Leader

Docs meeting time (was: Docs meeting summary -- 12 March 2012)

[Petr Kovar]

Hi all,

On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 09:51:11 -0400
Ben Cotton <bcotton(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:

(...)
>  * Open Floor Discussion  (bcotton, 13:39:13)
>    * ACTION: pkovar to address meeting times on docs ml  (bcotton,
>      13:47:33) 
I was wondering what are other people's opinions on basing the docs meeting
time on UTC instead of US-Eastern (which is what we do now). I think that
people outside of the U.S. have a hard time remembering when the US-Eastern
time changes. I know that there was some confusion about that before and
during this week's meeting.

Thanks,
Petr Kovar

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[Christopher Antila]

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Hi:

Always a good idea to make life easier for non-Americans. Let's go
with UTC.


CRA

On 03/16/2012 01:12 PM, Petr Kovar wrote:
>  Hi all,
>  
>  On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 09:51:11 -0400 Ben Cotton
>  <bcotton(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
>  
>  (...)
> > * Open Floor Discussion  (bcotton, 13:39:13) * ACTION: pkovar to
> > address meeting times on docs ml  (bcotton, 13:47:33)
>  
>  I was wondering what are other people's opinions on basing the docs
>  meeting time on UTC instead of US-Eastern (which is what we do
>  now). I think that people outside of the U.S. have a hard time
>  remembering when the US-Eastern time changes. I know that there was
>  some confusion about that before and during this week's meeting.
>  
> >  Thanks, Petr Kovar 
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[Eric Christensen]

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On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 05:52:13PM -0400, Christopher R. Antila wrote:
>  Hi:
>  
>  Always a good idea to make life easier for non-Americans. Let's go
>  with UTC.
>  
>  
>  CRA
>  
>  On 03/16/2012 01:12 PM, Petr Kovar wrote:
>  > Hi all,
>  > 
>  > On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 09:51:11 -0400 Ben Cotton
>  > <bcotton(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
>  > 
>  > (...)
>  >> * Open Floor Discussion  (bcotton, 13:39:13) * ACTION: pkovar to
>  >> address meeting times on docs ml  (bcotton, 13:47:33)
>  > 
>  > I was wondering what are other people's opinions on basing the docs
>  > meeting time on UTC instead of US-Eastern (which is what we do
>  > now). I think that people outside of the U.S. have a hard time
>  > remembering when the US-Eastern time changes. I know that there was
>  > some confusion about that before and during this week's meeting.
>  > 
>  > Thanks, Petr Kovar 
I think the most confusing part is how we keep changing from daylight savings and UTC.  I
really don't care which one we use but I'd prefer to keep the referenced timezone
static.

- --Eric

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[John J. McDonough]

On Fri, 2012-03-16 at 20:30 -0400, Eric H. Christensen wrote:
>  On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 05:52:13PM -0400, Christopher R. Antila
> wrote:
>  > Hi:
>  > 
>  > Always a good idea to make life easier for non-Americans. Let's go
>  > with UTC.
>  > 
>  > 
>  > CRA
>  > 
>  > On 03/16/2012 01:12 PM, Petr Kovar wrote:
>  > > Hi all,
>  > > 
>  > > On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 09:51:11 -0400 Ben Cotton
>  > > <bcotton(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
>  > > 
>  > > (...)
>  > >> * Open Floor Discussion  (bcotton, 13:39:13) * ACTION: pkovar to
>  > >> address meeting times on docs ml  (bcotton, 13:47:33)
>  > > 
>  > > I was wondering what are other people's opinions on basing the docs
>  > > meeting time on UTC instead of US-Eastern (which is what we do
>  > > now). I think that people outside of the U.S. have a hard time
>  > > remembering when the US-Eastern time changes. I know that there was
>  > > some confusion about that before and during this week's meeting.
>  > > 
>  > > Thanks, Petr Kovar
>  
>  I think the most confusing part is how we keep changing from daylight savings and UTC.  I
> really don't care which one we use but I'd prefer to keep the referenced timezone
> static. 
You know, I'm leaning more and more toward UTC.   I hate having the
meeting move twice a year, but keeping up with the DST changes in
different places has to be horrible. Suppose we chose, for example,
Central European Time.  We would change when we went to DST, then again
when they went to DST, then again when they go back, then yet again when
we go back.  And of course the dates change whenever some legislature or
another gets a bright idea.

If we pick UTC, then everyone changes twice a year instead of some folks
not changing and others changing 4 times, two of which are probably a
complete surprise (do you know what date Hungary goes to savings time?
Would you remember when that date came?)

--McD

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[Ben Cotton]

It sounds like the preference is UTC. That's sensible, especially
given the recent growth in non-US contributors. Shall we stick with
the 1400 UTC that we've been observing all winter?



-- 
Ben Cotton
Fedora Docs Leader

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[Compte Yahoo]

Hi,

I'd prefer UTC too. No more confusing with it, everyone make his
change agreed with his country legislation, like said by John J.
McDonough.
About hour of meeting, 1300 or 1400 UTC are fine to me.

2012/3/18 Ben Cotton <bcotton(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:
>  It sounds like the preference is UTC. That's sensible,
> especially
>  given the recent growth in non-US contributors. Shall we stick with
>  the 1400 UTC that we've been observing all winter?
>
>
>
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[Ben Cotton]

Okay, having heard no objections, let's stick with 1400 UTC beginning
with the next scheduled meeting (some 9 hours and 39 minutes from now)


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Ben Cotton
Fedora Docs Leader