Re: Some thoughts on beat writing

[Dale Bewley]

----- "Karsten Wade" <kwade(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  So, yes, there is a novel idea here -- a permanent beat page on the
>  wiki that has:
>  
>  * Commands to use to get more info about packages (yum info, rpm -q
>    --changelog)
>  
>  * List of packages for that section
>  
>  * Programmatically generated changes between FN and FN-1 
I hadn't pondered digging into the sqlite files. I found koji to be helpful for
finding the version delta of packages across (non-EOL) distributions.

My messy hack is here

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DaleBewley#Virtualization_Release_Notes

* pkgs.in contains CSV package name, relnotes URL
* dist.in contains f9, f10, etc

#!/bin/bash
grep -v '^#' pkgs.in | while read line; do
    grep -v '^#' dist.in | while read dist; do
            pkg=`echo $line | awk '{print $1}'`
            notes=`echo $line | awk '{print $2}'`
            ver=`koji latest-pkg "$dist" "$pkg" | tail -1 | awk
'{print $1}'`
            echo "$pkg, $dist, $ver, $notes"
    done
done

I then read the upstream relnotes for each release since the last Fedora distribution to
produce a summary of changes for the Fedora relnotes.

John mentioned a page to augment a beat for tracking changes. That may be an appropriate
use of the discussion tab on an article. As a new beat writer, I used my personal page for
that.

I think a page of tips like this will be very helpful.

Some thoughts on beat writing

[Karsten Wade]

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 09:57:50AM -0800, Dale Bewley wrote:
>  
>  I think a page of tips like this will be very helpful. 
Your wiki page stub awaits:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_be_a_release_notes_beat_writer

:)

- Karsten
-- 
Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Community Gardener
http://quaid.fedorapeople.org
AD0E0C41

Some thoughts on beat writing

[John J. McDonough]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Karsten Wade" <kwade(a)redhat.com&gt;
To: <fedora-docs-list(a)redhat.com&gt;
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: Some thoughts on beat writing



>  Your wiki page stub awaits:
>
>  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_be_a_release_notes_beat_writer 
Interestingly enough, I actually had thought of something like that, and got 
a start:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jjmcd/Drafts/How_to_be_a_Beat_Writer

Still needs soem work tho!

--McD

Some thoughts on beat writing

[Karsten Wade]

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 07:29:40PM -0500, John J. McDonough wrote:
>  ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karsten Wade" <kwade(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  To: <fedora-docs-list(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 5:41 PM
>  Subject: Re: Some thoughts on beat writing
>
>
>
> > Your wiki page stub awaits:
> >
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_be_a_release_notes_beat_writer
>
>  Interestingly enough, I actually had thought of something like that, and 
>  got a start:
>
>  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jjmcd/Drafts/How_to_be_a_Beat_Writer
>  
Oh, I missed that.  Feel free to start dropping content into the other
page.

BTW, I noted 'release_notes' because Fedora Weekly News also has beat
writers.  I figured we might want a master beat writer page that has
general conventions that everyone can use, then specific pages per
sub-proj ... but only if that is a warranted. :)

- Karsten, namespacey
-- 
Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Community Gardener
http://quaid.fedorapeople.org
AD0E0C41

Some thoughts on beat writing

[John J. McDonough]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Karsten Wade" <kwade(a)redhat.com&gt;
To: <fedora-docs-list(a)redhat.com&gt;
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: Some thoughts on beat writing

> >
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jjmcd/Drafts/How_to_be_a_Beat_Writer
> >
>
>  Oh, I missed that.  Feel free to start dropping content into the other
>  page. 
Well, as I understand it you wouldn't pick that up on a search

>  BTW, I noted 'release_notes' because Fedora Weekly News
I picked up on that, too

--McD

Some thoughts on beat writing

[John J. McDonough]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Karsten Wade" <kwade(a)redhat.com&gt;
To: <fedora-docs-list(a)redhat.com&gt;
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: Some thoughts on beat writing

> > Your wiki page stub awaits:
> >
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_be_a_release_notes_beat_writer
>  
I have a draft of that now.  I would appreciate if others, especially beat 
writers, would bleed on it.

Thanks

--McD