12.06.2016 12:48 "Brian (bex) Exelbierd" <bex(a)pobox.com> wrote:
> On Jun 11, 2016, at 2:39 AM, Rafal Luzynski <digitalfreak(a)lingonborough.com>
> wrote:
>
> 3.06.2016 16:01 "Brian (bex) Exelbierd" <bex(a)pobox.com> wrote:
> [...]
> EU citizens must have their passports or ID cards (it's recommended
> to have both).
As my source was a US Government communication, I don't have details for EU
citizens exactly. If both are recommended the text should be amended.
Your info is correct: for EU citizens it's enough to have either
a passport or an ID card. This is my private opinion and recommendation
to have both. That's because I guess the local authorities sometimes may
not be able to read the ID card in a language of another European country
while passports are usually multilingual with English translation included.
If you guys agree with me then you can amend the website with the info
that EU citizens are obliged to have their ID card _or_ a passport
although _we_ recommend to have both. If you don't agree feel free to
mention only and ID card _or_ a passport which is officially required.
> [...]
> As far as I know there are no different regulations for different
> ways to cross the border. Brian, are you sure that air and sea travelers
> will be less impacted than ground travelers? I suggest to verify
> this information and remove this sentence from the web page if it
> turns out to be false.
Again, this was written in the context of a US Government communication.
Therefore air travelers would already automatically have their documents from
inbound international flights while those making trips from other points in
Europe may not.
OK, I understand what you mean: that screening is usual while
entering a plane. But the difference this summer will be that
passengers will also be screened when leaving a plane and entering
the country. OTOH, I don't mean anything unusual and different than
most countries around the world do so nobody should feel scared.
I think you meant this page as the source of your information:
https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/alertswarnings/europe-trave...
Either it has been updated or it never mentioned that the special
rules apply to ground travelers more than the air travelers.
By the way, this page contains some more useful information so
it's worth reading.
While at this I'd like to mention that all travelers may be required
to show their passport and other document on a demand from police,
Border Guard and also Railroad Guard at random places and random
time, not only while crossing border. Police (until 31 August) and
Railroad Guard (until 2 August) will be allowed to search the
travelers' baggage. I'm sorry if it sounds scary, I hope nobody
will be hurt or offended due to these regulations.
Best regards,
Rafal
PS. Thank you Paul for having amended the website already.