Of course Flock will have the usual State of Fedora FPL keynote, but I think it would be great to have other keynotes each day of Flock as well. Any suggestions on whom we should approach (even better if you know them!)?
Ruth
On 29 May 2013 14:21, Ruth Suehle rsuehle@gmail.com wrote:
Of course Flock will have the usual State of Fedora FPL keynote, but I think it would be great to have other keynotes each day of Flock as well. Any suggestions on whom we should approach (even better if you know them!)?
Well keynotes are usually tied into the theme of a conference.. so suggesting the Red Hat CEO might not be good if that is not the theme. What is the theme of Flock? [And sorry if I am missing something obvious.]
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Stephen John Smoogen smooge@gmail.com wrote:
On 29 May 2013 14:21, Ruth Suehle rsuehle@gmail.com wrote:
Of course Flock will have the usual State of Fedora FPL keynote, but I think it would be great to have other keynotes each day of Flock as well. Any suggestions on whom we should approach (even better if you know them!)?
Well keynotes are usually tied into the theme of a conference.. so suggesting the Red Hat CEO might not be good if that is not the theme. What is the theme of Flock? [And sorry if I am missing something obvious.]
I'm not sure there's a set theme. I'm also not sure you need one to come up with keynote speakers. Find people doing really interesting stuff with Fedora that we don't normally see, or find people using Fedora in high profile places to discuss why they use it, etc.
Another idea could be to look at the resulting talks submitted and perhaps do keynote speakers based on the tracks that fall out from those. E.g. if you have a kernel track, an ARM track, a security track, and a design track, you could invite keynote speakers that are from each of those communities.
I think the options are fairly open ended, but the end result should be speakers relevant in some way to Fedora.
josh
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Stephen John Smoogen smooge@gmail.com wrote:
On 29 May 2013 14:21, Ruth Suehle rsuehle@gmail.com wrote:
Of course Flock will have the usual State of Fedora FPL keynote, but I think it would be great to have other keynotes each day of Flock as well. Any suggestions on whom we should approach (even better if you know them!)?
Well keynotes are usually tied into the theme of a conference.. so suggesting the Red Hat CEO might not be good if that is not the theme. What is the theme of Flock? [And sorry if I am missing something obvious.]
Good question. I once in the past did extend an invitation to Michael Tiemann to join us in Arizona I believe and there were some other obligations that prevented it at the time but he was very receptive to the idea. I think he could easily deliver a talk that would inspire us.
John
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From: "Stephen John Smoogen" smooge@gmail.com To: "Planning discussion for Flock (Fedora Contributor Conference)" flock-planning@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 1:41:25 PM Subject: Re: Keynotes
On 29 May 2013 14:21, Ruth Suehle < rsuehle@gmail.com > wrote:
Of course Flock will have the usual State of Fedora FPL keynote, but I think it would be great to have other keynotes each day of Flock as well. Any suggestions on whom we should approach (even better if you know them!)?
Well keynotes are usually tied into the theme of a conference.. so suggesting the Red Hat CEO might not be good if that is not the theme. What is the theme of Flock? [And sorry if I am missing something obvious.]
I hope it is "get together and get things done/planned" :)
Aside from the FPL talk, which is not so much "so I have a keynote!" and more to make sure that future FPLs also have the opportunity to set the tone and issue the "go forth and kick butt" vibe... unless the topic is highly pertinent to Fedora, keynotes could be boring/not time well-used (If I had a dollar for every boring keynote I have attended, it would be almost as much as the If I had a dollar for every irrelevant keynote I didn't attend pile of money.)
It could also bring up logistics issues of "need to have separate theatre-style room available all mornings." Not sure if that's an issue or not offhand.
That said: I think other cool keynote possibilities are:
* People/Company using Fedora to make Real Downstream Product Things that are not ... RHEL (Arista Networks comes to mind with EOS) * Continuous Integration/Continuous Delivery/Deployment (or even more loosely, devops) topic - I can give a long list of names here. But the question here is - can they make it relevant to Fedora? Obviously it's a direction folks are talking about and I think it would be dandy to have an inspiring talk along the lines of of "look, end of rainbow! so pretty. we can get there!" * Sessions just expected to have asininely high participation could sub in.
Also: Instead of keynotes, could do a lightning-style session of "recap of everything yesterday" (this is similar to how ODS sums things up, so people get the gist of what's transpiring without having to be in all places at once) - 5m per team/group/session/whatever we decide. (ODS does it by project, the lead takes the responsibility to pull that stuff together each day, iirc.)
-r
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Hello all.
It would be definitely cool to have keynotes everyday and I'm sure there are plenty of topics that could be interesting; however, my only question would be what's our target (knowing that the idea is to gather people who *make things*) just to show them how awesome we (or some companies) are, or projects proposal that can make them want to contribute?
I might not be well experienced in huge events like most people in NA and EMEA are; however, it would be cool that keynotes encourage developers/designers/translators/etc to join an initiative or a project and not just turn into an informative -huge talk-
See ya.
2013/5/29 Robyn Bergeron rbergero@redhat.com
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Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 1:41:25 PM Subject: Re: Keynotes
On 29 May 2013 14:21, Ruth Suehle < rsuehle@gmail.com > wrote:
Of course Flock will have the usual State of Fedora FPL keynote, but I
think
it would be great to have other keynotes each day of Flock as well. Any suggestions on whom we should approach (even better if you know them!)?
Well keynotes are usually tied into the theme of a conference.. so
suggesting
the Red Hat CEO might not be good if that is not the theme. What is the theme of Flock? [And sorry if I am missing something obvious.]
I hope it is "get together and get things done/planned" :)
Aside from the FPL talk, which is not so much "so I have a keynote!" and more to make sure that future FPLs also have the opportunity to set the tone and issue the "go forth and kick butt" vibe... unless the topic is highly pertinent to Fedora, keynotes could be boring/not time well-used (If I had a dollar for every boring keynote I have attended, it would be almost as much as the If I had a dollar for every irrelevant keynote I didn't attend pile of money.)
It could also bring up logistics issues of "need to have separate theatre-style room available all mornings." Not sure if that's an issue or not offhand.
That said: I think other cool keynote possibilities are:
- People/Company using Fedora to make Real Downstream Product Things that
are not ... RHEL (Arista Networks comes to mind with EOS)
- Continuous Integration/Continuous Delivery/Deployment (or even more
loosely, devops) topic - I can give a long list of names here. But the question here is - can they make it relevant to Fedora? Obviously it's a direction folks are talking about and I think it would be dandy to have an inspiring talk along the lines of of "look, end of rainbow! so pretty. we can get there!"
- Sessions just expected to have asininely high participation could sub
in.
Also: Instead of keynotes, could do a lightning-style session of "recap of everything yesterday" (this is similar to how ODS sums things up, so people get the gist of what's transpiring without having to be in all places at once) - 5m per team/group/session/whatever we decide. (ODS does it by project, the lead takes the responsibility to pull that stuff together each day, iirc.)
-r
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On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:09 PM, María Leandro tatica@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Hello all.
It would be definitely cool to have keynotes everyday and I'm sure there are plenty of topics that could be interesting; however, my only question would be what's our target (knowing that the idea is to gather people who *make things*) just to show them how awesome we (or some companies) are, or projects proposal that can make them want to contribute?
I might not be well experienced in huge events like most people in NA and EMEA are; however, it would be cool that keynotes encourage developers/designers/translators/etc to join an initiative or a project and not just turn into an informative -huge talk-
I think the best keynotes I have seen are often only tangentially related to the conference itself. But they are always inspiring, fill you with wonder, and make you think about things in some new way.
For example, Dr. Hong from RoMeLa would knock our socks off if he came to talk.
http://www.romela.org/main/Robotics_and_Mechanisms_Laboratory
John
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Robyn Bergeron rbergero@redhat.com wrote:
It could also bring up logistics issues of "need to have separate theatre-style room available all mornings." Not sure if that's an issue or not offhand.
This part is not a problem. In fact, we may have the auditorium the whole time.
I mentioned Flock to Michael Tiemann when I ran into him at Free Comic Book Day (of all places). He didn't say he couldn't come, so I could ask if he'd come do a keynote.
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Aside from the FPL talk, which is not so much "so I have a keynote!" and more to make sure that future FPLs also have the opportunity to set the tone and issue the "go forth and kick butt" vibe... unless the topic is highly pertinent to Fedora, keynotes could be boring/not time well-used (If I had a dollar for every boring keynote I have attended, it would be almost as much as the If I had a dollar for every irrelevant keynote I didn't attend pile of money.)
It could also bring up logistics issues of "need to have separate theatre-style room available all mornings." Not sure if that's an issue or not offhand.
That said: I think other cool keynote possibilities are:
- People/Company using Fedora to make Real Downstream Product Things that are
not ... RHEL (Arista Networks comes to mind with EOS)
- Continuous Integration/Continuous Delivery/Deployment (or even more
loosely, devops) topic - I can give a long list of names here. But the question here is - can they make it relevant to Fedora? Obviously it's a direction folks are talking about and I think it would be dandy to have an inspiring talk along the lines of of "look, end of rainbow! so pretty. we can get there!"
- Sessions just expected to have asininely high participation could sub in.
Or from our upstreams - we talk a lot how we do upstream first but we do not know much about upstreams and what they do/plan to do and it directly affects Fedora. But for the most important ones, I'm not sure we can get people as because of pretty tight coexistence with Guadec and I'll expect everyone is going to be there :(
Also: Instead of keynotes, could do a lightning-style session of "recap of everything yesterday" (this is similar to how ODS sums things up, so people get the gist of what's transpiring without having to be in all places at once) - 5m per team/group/session/whatever we decide. (ODS does it by project, the lead takes the responsibility to pull that stuff together each day, iirc.)
I really like this idea - better than keynote. Especially if you realize when talking to people being at FUDCon that on that FUDCon we talked/decided X and they are - "Really? Wow, I didn't know. When? Who?". So recap in the morning for everyone to be on the same board and allow people to potentially join the upcoming discussion - worth $1 billion!
R.
-r
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On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 07:47:14AM -0400, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
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Aside from the FPL talk, which is not so much "so I have a keynote!" and more to make sure that future FPLs also have the opportunity to set the tone and issue the "go forth and kick butt" vibe... unless the topic is highly pertinent to Fedora, keynotes could be boring/not time well-used (If I had a dollar for every boring keynote I have attended, it would be almost as much as the If I had a dollar for every irrelevant keynote I didn't attend pile of money.)
It could also bring up logistics issues of "need to have separate theatre-style room available all mornings." Not sure if that's an issue or not offhand.
That said: I think other cool keynote possibilities are:
- People/Company using Fedora to make Real Downstream Product Things that are
not ... RHEL (Arista Networks comes to mind with EOS)
- Continuous Integration/Continuous Delivery/Deployment (or even more
loosely, devops) topic - I can give a long list of names here. But the question here is - can they make it relevant to Fedora? Obviously it's a direction folks are talking about and I think it would be dandy to have an inspiring talk along the lines of of "look, end of rainbow! so pretty. we can get there!"
- Sessions just expected to have asininely high participation could sub in.
Or from our upstreams - we talk a lot how we do upstream first but we do not know much about upstreams and what they do/plan to do and it directly affects Fedora. But for the most important ones, I'm not sure we can get people as because of pretty tight coexistence with Guadec and I'll expect everyone is going to be there :(
Also: Instead of keynotes, could do a lightning-style session of "recap of everything yesterday" (this is similar to how ODS sums things up, so people get the gist of what's transpiring without having to be in all places at once) - 5m per team/group/session/whatever we decide. (ODS does it by project, the lead takes the responsibility to pull that stuff together each day, iirc.)
I really like this idea - better than keynote. Especially if you realize when talking to people being at FUDCon that on that FUDCon we talked/decided X and they are - "Really? Wow, I didn't know. When? Who?". So recap in the morning for everyone to be on the same board and allow people to potentially join the upcoming discussion - worth $1 billion!
This is a really intriguing idea, especially if Flock is meant to be a conference where we can do bigger planning for Fedora's future and the components needed to get things moving in that direction. It also enforces some accountability on those discussions.
On 05/30/2013 07:47 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
I really like this idea - better than keynote. Especially if you realize when talking to people being at FUDCon that on that FUDCon we talked/decided X and they are - "Really? Wow, I didn't know. When? Who?". So recap in the morning for everyone to be on the same board and allow people to potentially join the upcoming discussion - worth $1 billion!
I've been brainstorming on this idea... here are some thoughts about it:
* We could have a 30 minute recap session first thing in the morning (except for the first day). * In order for that to happen, we'd need willing volunteers to gather all that information together, summarize it into the recap, and then present it the next day. Anyone doing that is probably not going to be able to do much else. * We would be able to keep morning keynotes.
Very interested in other thoughts here.
~tom
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From: "Tom Callaway" tcallawa@redhat.com To: "Planning discussion for Flock (Fedora Contributor Conference)" flock-planning@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2013 7:55:36 PM Subject: Re: Keynotes
On 05/30/2013 07:47 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
I really like this idea - better than keynote. Especially if you realize when talking to people being at FUDCon that on that FUDCon we talked/decided X and they are - "Really? Wow, I didn't know. When? Who?". So recap in the morning for everyone to be on the same board and allow people to potentially join the upcoming discussion - worth $1 billion!
I've been brainstorming on this idea... here are some thoughts about it:
- We could have a 30 minute recap session first thing in the morning
(except for the first day).
- In order for that to happen, we'd need willing volunteers to gather
all that information together, summarize it into the recap, and then present it the next day. Anyone doing that is probably not going to be able to do much else.
- We would be able to keep morning keynotes.
Very interested in other thoughts here.
So after doing a bit more research, here are my thoughts:
We have a number of "categories" - most of them are projects of some sort, some with more levels of complication/detail to share than others, I suspect.
We might consider the following:
* Having a lead/owner for each track/category that has feedback into the schedule (likely a bit in consensus with the folks on those teams/groups/SIGs) * Trying to arrange those sessions maybe in blocks of 2 days (??? this gets murky here...) - so that folks who are likely needing to do double duty in multiple groups aren't missing half the things they are interested in, or can at least participate equally if they overlap. ie: Docs/Trans probably wouldn't want to overlap, nor Ambassadors/Trans; QA/releng/infra may need some major wrangling, etc. * Having summary sessions in the evening or morning - perhaps rather than having the "5 minute update" - give people 5-20 minutes (depending on group, how much they expect to be covering in terms of "things everyone else should be aware of") to basically cover: ** State of Team/Group/SIG ** Major topics covered during Flock ** Feedback/concerns ** What their roadmap for next 1, 2, 3, whatever they want to commit to in terms of releases looks like. Basically: What have you decided to plan on?
I don't think this should be unduly terribly hard - this is what the folks in openstack-land do - just *one* summary session. (The way they do it though is on the last day, in each hour slot of time there is *one* session covering *one* project's/team's summary session - but other regular sessions running in the same time slot, just hopefully not horrifically overlapping).
I would suggest that each group have their own running etherpad(s) - so that the burden isn't ridiculous for the track organizer/owner - we don't need people making pretty slides all night long (or all day long) - just a basic recap of what went on, what the state of the project is, etc.
I guess I haven't narrowed it down much - we could either (or both, even) do longer recap sessions (which would be awesome for taping, BTW) - as well as mini-recaps in the morning. Or we might just ask around which tracks expect that they'll have major agreements/progress to be reporting out on that might want a longer slot to share info at the end, and otherwise just do the mini-morning updates each day.
-r
~tom
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On 05/30/2013 07:47 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
I really like this idea - better than keynote. Especially if you realize when talking to people being at FUDCon that on that FUDCon we talked/decided X and they are - "Really? Wow, I didn't know. When? Who?". So recap in the morning for everyone to be on the same board and allow people to potentially join the upcoming discussion - worth $1 billion!
I've been brainstorming on this idea... here are some thoughts about it:
- We could have a 30 minute recap session first thing in the morning
(except for the first day).
- In order for that to happen, we'd need willing volunteers to gather
all that information together, summarize it into the recap, and then present it the next day. Anyone doing that is probably not going to be able to do much else.
Is it really necessary someone has to collect the information? Wouldn't be easier to ask every team working on something to send one representative with short one to five minutes long summary? If not, I'm interested to help ;-).
Jaroslav
- We would be able to keep morning keynotes.
Very interested in other thoughts here.
~tom
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On 06/03/2013 11:54 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
----- Original Message -----
On 05/30/2013 07:47 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
I really like this idea - better than keynote. Especially if you realize when talking to people being at FUDCon that on that FUDCon we talked/decided X and they are - "Really? Wow, I didn't know. When? Who?". So recap in the morning for everyone to be on the same board and allow people to potentially join the upcoming discussion - worth $1 billion!
I've been brainstorming on this idea... here are some thoughts about it:
- We could have a 30 minute recap session first thing in the morning
(except for the first day).
- In order for that to happen, we'd need willing volunteers to gather
all that information together, summarize it into the recap, and then present it the next day. Anyone doing that is probably not going to be able to do much else.
Is it really necessary someone has to collect the information? Wouldn't be easier to ask every team working on something to send one representative with short one to five minutes long summary? If not, I'm interested to help ;-).
That could work, but it ignores the presentations. Who will gather up the summarized notes from each talk? :)
~tom
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On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 05:02:07PM -0400, Robyn Bergeron wrote:
Well keynotes are usually tied into the theme of a conference.. so suggesting the Red Hat CEO might not be good if that is not the theme. What is the theme of Flock? [And sorry if I am missing something obvious.]
I hope it is "get together and get things done/planned" :)
I haven't been involved in planning this, so apologies for commenting from the sidelines, but I think we need to do a better job at marketing this as something new, special, and exciting. I've heard comments along the lines of "Oh, I thought it was just a new name for FUDCon" from multiple people, and coupled with that on investigation, the idea that FUDCon was (or had devolved into) a kind of LUG meeting. Not that there's anything wrong with LUG meetings, but it's my understanding that the intention is bigger than that, and we need to bring out that message.
The "about" page on the Flock to Fedora site says
For eight years, Fedora users and developers have gathered at an event named for them, the Fedora Users and Developers conference (FUDCon). But we’ve grown, and it’s time for a new approach: Flock.
Flock is a brand new conference where Fedora contributors can come together, discuss new ideas, work to make those ideas a reality, and continue to promote the core values of the Fedora community: Freedom, Friends, Features, and First.
but the main page just says "Flock is a new Fedora conference that will be held August 9-12, 2013 in Charleston, SC."
Can we bring more emphasis on _what_ is new?
Can we make a subset of the quote above into *the* theme:
Flock: Making new ideas into reality.
?
Hey!
thank you for this feedback; I just add the text to the website, however, I think we could change the banners and make them more attractive with some more explicit content.
I would be happy to work in some ideas, however, I might not be that good with the messages (my english is tricky sometimes) so if you could come up with, lets say, 3 or 4 slogans; I could easily work on some banners to place at the main slider.
thank you again!
2013/5/31 Matthew Miller mattdm@fedoraproject.org
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 05:02:07PM -0400, Robyn Bergeron wrote:
Well keynotes are usually tied into the theme of a conference.. so
suggesting
the Red Hat CEO might not be good if that is not the theme. What is the theme of Flock? [And sorry if I am missing something obvious.]
I hope it is "get together and get things done/planned" :)
I haven't been involved in planning this, so apologies for commenting from the sidelines, but I think we need to do a better job at marketing this as something new, special, and exciting. I've heard comments along the lines of "Oh, I thought it was just a new name for FUDCon" from multiple people, and coupled with that on investigation, the idea that FUDCon was (or had devolved into) a kind of LUG meeting. Not that there's anything wrong with LUG meetings, but it's my understanding that the intention is bigger than that, and we need to bring out that message.
The "about" page on the Flock to Fedora site says
For eight years, Fedora users and developers have gathered at an event named for them, the Fedora Users and Developers conference (FUDCon). But we’ve grown, and it’s time for a new approach: Flock.
Flock is a brand new conference where Fedora contributors can come together, discuss new ideas, work to make those ideas a reality, and continue to promote the core values of the Fedora community: Freedom, Friends, Features, and First.
but the main page just says "Flock is a new Fedora conference that will be held August 9-12, 2013 in Charleston, SC."
Can we bring more emphasis on _what_ is new?
Can we make a subset of the quote above into *the* theme:
Flock: Making new ideas into reality.
?
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On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 01:43:00PM -0430, María Leandro wrote:
2013/5/31 Matthew Miller mattdm@fedoraproject.org
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 05:02:07PM -0400, Robyn Bergeron wrote:
Well keynotes are usually tied into the theme of a conference.. so
suggesting
the Red Hat CEO might not be good if that is not the theme. What is the theme of Flock? [And sorry if I am missing something obvious.]
I hope it is "get together and get things done/planned" :)
I haven't been involved in planning this, so apologies for commenting from the sidelines, but I think we need to do a better job at marketing this as something new, special, and exciting. I've heard comments along the lines of "Oh, I thought it was just a new name for FUDCon" from multiple people, and coupled with that on investigation, the idea that FUDCon was (or had devolved into) a kind of LUG meeting. Not that there's anything wrong with LUG meetings, but it's my understanding that the intention is bigger than that, and we need to bring out that message.
The "about" page on the Flock to Fedora site says
For eight years, Fedora users and developers have gathered at an event named for them, the Fedora Users and Developers conference (FUDCon). But we’ve grown, and it’s time for a new approach: Flock.
Flock is a brand new conference where Fedora contributors can come together, discuss new ideas, work to make those ideas a reality, and continue to promote the core values of the Fedora community: Freedom, Friends, Features, and First.
but the main page just says "Flock is a new Fedora conference that will be held August 9-12, 2013 in Charleston, SC."
Can we bring more emphasis on _what_ is new?
Can we make a subset of the quote above into *the* theme:
Flock: Making new ideas into reality.
?
Hey!
thank you for this feedback; I just add the text to the website, however, I think we could change the banners and make them more attractive with some more explicit content.
I would be happy to work in some ideas, however, I might not be that good with the messages (my english is tricky sometimes) so if you could come up with, lets say, 3 or 4 slogans; I could easily work on some banners to place at the main slider.
thank you again!
I agree that we want the text on the site to be as accurate as possible. But I think the further point Matt was making is that it's not clear what, exactly, is different about Flock yet. As someone who is not keeping up daily with all Fedora activities these days, if there's some major differences between Flock and FUDCon beyond the name and the broader attendance, it's not yet clear to me.
There are many sessions, hackfests, workshops as we've seen in FUDCons -- all of which is fantastic, and I'm really looking forward to quite a few of them. But it also seems like there are ideas churning around, as discussed in previous Fedora conferences such as FUDCon Lawrence, such as whether the future Fedora of a couple years out might look different from the Fedora of today.
Are those changes going to be part of the theme of Flock? And are there special sessions for those sorts of topics?
On 06/03/2013 11:48 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
I agree that we want the text on the site to be as accurate as possible. But I think the further point Matt was making is that it's not clear what, exactly, is different about Flock yet. As someone who is not keeping up daily with all Fedora activities these days, if there's some major differences between Flock and FUDCon beyond the name and the broader attendance, it's not yet clear to me.
There are many sessions, hackfests, workshops as we've seen in FUDCons -- all of which is fantastic, and I'm really looking forward to quite a few of them. But it also seems like there are ideas churning around, as discussed in previous Fedora conferences such as FUDCon Lawrence, such as whether the future Fedora of a couple years out might look different from the Fedora of today.
Are those changes going to be part of the theme of Flock? And are there special sessions for those sorts of topics?
One of the initial ideas for Flock was that we would try to have a conference dedicated to something broader than just Fedora... but we ended up deciding to just focus on Fedora and its ecosystems for now.
For 2013, I think the key changes in Flock are size (bigger than ever before) and format (a schedule planned and announced in advance).
I hope that people come away from Flock inspired and with projects either ready to start or already deep into the efforts. I'm very happy to see a lot of future thinking presentations on a number of topics, since I firmly believe we need to start planning for our future and making the changes necessary to keep Fedora vibrant, healthy, useful, and relevant.
All of that said, at the end of the day:
* Flock is what the Fedora community makes it.
&&
* Flock is a work in progress. I know we will learn a lot of about it in this first endeavor, and I'm confident we can fine tune and improve for the next one.
We never defined a "theme" for this Flock. One of my concerns was that if we did that, we'd limit the audience and the talks unnecessarily. That said, we've made it very clear that Flock is a contributor conference, not a user conference. That doesn't mean it isn't useful to users, but our clear focus and preference is on contributors (current and future). If I was to pull a theme out of midair it would be something like:
Flock: Working together to build the future of Fedora
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== Fedora Project
On Mon, Jun 03, 2013 at 12:08:50PM -0400, Tom Callaway wrote:
Flock: Working together to build the future of Fedora
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On 05/29/2013 04:21 PM, Ruth Suehle wrote:
Of course Flock will have the usual State of Fedora FPL keynote, but I think it would be great to have other keynotes each day of Flock as well. Any suggestions on whom we should approach (even better if you know them!)?
I'm not sure if he's planning to come to Flock, but Lennart Poettering's "What are we breaking now?" series of talks would make an excellent keynote. I'll check with him if he's going to attend.
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