F38 servers will auto-suspend if GNOME is installed
by Kamil Paral
GNOME developers enabled auto-suspend by default, even when on AC power,
after 15 minutes of inactivity. I just tested that this will also affect
Fedora Server, if you install GNOME packages manually, and boot into the
graphical.target. I don't know how rare or common this scenario is, but I
want to highlight this change. If Server WG thinks this is a problematic
change for the Fedora Server user base, please start making noise about it
now, because we're only 1 month from F38 Final release :-)
Cheers,
Kamil
Fedora QA
1 year
Re: The nvme-cli package & the Fedora Server DVD on-media
repositories
by Peter Boy
> Am 23.03.2023 um 13:17 schrieb mkolman(a)redhat.com:
>
> On Wed, 2023-03-22 at 16:15 +0100, Peter Boy wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Am 22.03.2023 um 12:59 schrieb mkolman(a)redhat.com:
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> Recently we have been looking at this bug, currently reported on
>>> Anaconda:
>>>
>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2178508
>>>
>>> "missing packages:nvme-cli during the installation of Fedora 38 Server
>>> Beta"
>>>
>>> In short, what happens is that starting with Blivet (the storage
>>> library used by the Anaconda installer) 3.7.0 the nvme-cli tool will be
>>> proposed for installation when NVME hardware is detected at
>>> installation time.
>>>
>>> This effectively boils down to the nvme-cli package being added to the
>>> installation RPM transaction.
>>>
>>> This works correctly on netinst images, as the nvme-cli package is
>>> available from the Fedora online repositories. But it fails on the F38
>>> Server DVD image, as nvme-cli is *not* present in the on-media
>>> repositories.
>>>
>>> My question is - how are the DVD image repositories defined ? How can
>>> the nvme-cli package be added to them ?
>>
>>
>> As Stephen Smoogen already noted, the DVD as well as the net install pull in packages as defined in the comps files as he noted.
>>
>> If the net install includes the file but the DVD not, then the cause is most likely a dependency issue. DVD and NET installation handle dependencies differently. Net installation includes all types of dependencies, but DVD installation does not. If I remember correctly, weak dependencies are not taken into account. See https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/32
> In this case the dependency is dynamically generated at runtime - if Blivet find the right NVME hardware on the target system, it will request the nvme-cli package to be installed. For this to work, the nvme-cli package needs to be present on the DVD image repos. So to fully solve this issue, I think we will have to somehow hardwire the package to be included in the DVD repos, as regular "static" dependencies are not directly in play here.
OK, that’s a different issue. Looking around to find a suitable location in the server kickstart files, I found the following in comps: (pagure.io/fedora-comps - f38)
comps-f38.xml.in: Note: The anaconda-tools group lists packages that anaconda might
comps-f38.xml.in: anaconda environment. If a package is needed in anaconda's runtime
comps-f38.xml.in: environment it should be listed as a dependency of the anaconda
comps-f38.xml.in: <id>anaconda-tools</id>
comps-f38.xml.in: <packagereq type="mandatory">kdump-anaconda-addon</packagereq>
comps-f38.xml.in: <id>critical-path-anaconda</id>
comps-f38.xml.in: <_name>Critical Path (anaconda)</_name>
comps-f38.xml.in: <_description>A set of packages that provide the Critical Path functionality for installing Fedora with anaconda</_description>
comps-f38.xml.in: <packagereq type="mandatory">anaconda</packagereq>
comps-f38.xml.in: See https://github.com/rhinstaller/anaconda/commit/a475dd0194df7abf0453786fc0...
Did you already add the nvme-cli package to the anaconda-tools? As I understand, that way the package would become part of the Anaconda runtime and included in the installation medium. That might be a better way as to include it into the files to be installed on every Fedora Server to be created, regardless whether it is needed.
>>
>> It is best to ask Stephen Gallagher of Server WG. He also solved a similar problem with Cockpit previously at the time in minutes, without causing collateral damage (as others did, unfortunately). I'll put him into CC.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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1 year, 1 month
Cockpit 288, cockpit-machines 286, and cockpit-podman 65 released
by Katerina Koukiou
Hi!
Cockpit is the modern Linux admin interface. We release regularly. Here
are the release notes:
https://cockpit-project.org/blog/cockpit-288.html
Summary:
- Accounts: Show shell and home directory on detail page
- Accounts: Custom user ID during account creation
- Overview: Support additional timeservers with chronyd
- Metrics: Show longer time span by default
- Storage: Mounting filesystems at boot time
- Machines: Create VM based on cloud image and start it later
- API removal: Remove cockpit.dbus.publish() and .meta()
You can get Cockpit here:
http://cockpit-project.org/running.html
The new releases are available in Fedora 37 and 38, see the links in the
blog
post.
Enjoy the rest of the day,
Katerina
1 year, 1 month
F38 dnf modules isn't going to be functional
by Sumantro Mukherjee
DNF5 test day is running and we have figured that dnf modules command
is being worked on.
The functionality can be tracked [0] and this is targeted to be complete in F39.
If users, have modules enabled in F37 and upgrade to F38, things will be fine.
However, fresh installs or installations which wanna play with modules
in F38 won't be
able to do that.
DNF team suggests a workaround how to modify modules without using any
tool - modify files in /etc/dnf/modules.d. if you want to reset nodejs
module you can use rm /etc/dnf/modules.d/nodejs
If this is a problematic thing, we should communicate this to the users.
[0] https://github.com/rpm-software-management/dnf5/issues/146
--
//sumantro
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1 year, 1 month
Re: F38 dnf modules isn't going to be functional
by Peter Robinson
On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 2:20 PM Frantisek Zatloukal <fzatlouk(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
> But that's microdnf, not the current default dnf. I don't think microdnf
> was used by default in any of our blocking spins/images.
>
We ship microdnf in the arm minimal image due to issues with dnf and memory
usage[1] and it's used quite widely on devices like the Raspberry Pi
Zero2W. The Minimal image is blocking.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1907030
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 1:44 PM Sumantro Mukherjee <sumukher(a)redhat.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 2:09 PM Frantisek Zatloukal <fzatlouk(a)redhat.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> But the dnf > dnf5 switch will happen in F39, not F38, so that shouldn't
>>> be an issue that it's not supported in DNF 5, no?
>>>
>>
>> I checked and it says F38 as target release
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/MajorUpgradeOfMicrodnf
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 8:32 AM Sumantro Mukherjee <sumukher(a)redhat.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> DNF5 test day is running and we have figured that dnf modules command
>>>> is being worked on.
>>>> The functionality can be tracked [0] and this is targeted to be
>>>> complete in F39.
>>>> If users, have modules enabled in F37 and upgrade to F38, things will
>>>> be fine.
>>>> However, fresh installs or installations which wanna play with modules
>>>> in F38 won't be
>>>> able to do that.
>>>>
>>>> DNF team suggests a workaround how to modify modules without using any
>>>> tool - modify files in /etc/dnf/modules.d. if you want to reset nodejs
>>>> module you can use rm /etc/dnf/modules.d/nodejs
>>>>
>>>> If this is a problematic thing, we should communicate this to the users.
>>>>
>>>> [0] https://github.com/rpm-software-management/dnf5/issues/146
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>
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1 year, 1 month
Re: F38 dnf modules isn't going to be functional
by Lukas Ruzicka
On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 3:20 PM Frantisek Zatloukal <fzatlouk(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
> But that's microdnf, not the current default dnf. I don't think microdnf
> was used by default in any of our blocking spins/images.
>
Totally correct. Thanks for the clarification.
1 year, 1 month
Our most important features for the new web page
by Peter Boy
The current draft:
https://fedora.gitlab.io/websites-apps/fedora-websites/fedora-websites-3....
Discussion about development
https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-server-front-page-revamp-lo...
We have to check and discuss
* The graphical representations
* The wording of the mission statements
* specific properties in the Fedora universe
* specific properties in relation to other distributions
> - - - - - - - - - - - <
According for various discussions and our PRD (Product Requirement Document) our central intentions are:
(a)
=Flexibility= and =customizable=, can be =tailored to the specific needs= of the local admin / customer / owner
(Universalitiy and Flexibility are the main difference to CoreOS and IoT)
"provides a ... flexible, and universally-adaptable base for the everyday provisioning of services and applications by organizations and individuals,
"Deploy the services you need under your own control, and customized to your own requirements"
"A great variety of available software, ... opens up a wide range of possibilities for flexibility in building a server according to the specific needs and wishes of a customer or end-user.
A platform for deploying containerized applications supporting multiple container technologies, among which **the system administrator can choose according to custom requirements**.
(b)
==Stable but nevertheless latest technology==
"Fedora Server provides a stable ... based on the latest technology and is available quickly after the upstream releases.
"Fedora Server provides a stable foundation, with balanced resource utilization, yet delivering the latest technologies giving administrators every day exposure to the latest tooling as soon as it is usable"
(c)
A platform for important infrastructure tasks and basic services (DNS, DHCP, FreeIPA, and others)
A platform for various important, dedicated server applications (file/storage server, database server, user-developed web applications, etc.)
(d)
=Security=
"enterprise-grade security, resulting in carefully pre-configured releases, offering uncompromising security without extensive configuration work by system administrators.
Security-minded: secure by design - extending into TPM support, disk encryption enablement
(e)
Admin friendly
easy update and upgrade to next release without re-installation
(f)
For developers:
" implementation of the latest server technology for exploring and evaluating."
" Developers find an excellent development environment for the next generation server as well as application software with the latest software versions available. "
1 year, 1 month
Re: F38 dnf modules isn't going to be functional
by Sumantro Mukherjee
On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 2:09 PM Frantisek Zatloukal <fzatlouk(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
> But the dnf > dnf5 switch will happen in F39, not F38, so that shouldn't
> be an issue that it's not supported in DNF 5, no?
>
I checked and it says F38 as target release
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/MajorUpgradeOfMicrodnf
>
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 8:32 AM Sumantro Mukherjee <sumukher(a)redhat.com>
> wrote:
>
>> DNF5 test day is running and we have figured that dnf modules command
>> is being worked on.
>> The functionality can be tracked [0] and this is targeted to be complete
>> in F39.
>> If users, have modules enabled in F37 and upgrade to F38, things will be
>> fine.
>> However, fresh installs or installations which wanna play with modules
>> in F38 won't be
>> able to do that.
>>
>> DNF team suggests a workaround how to modify modules without using any
>> tool - modify files in /etc/dnf/modules.d. if you want to reset nodejs
>> module you can use rm /etc/dnf/modules.d/nodejs
>>
>> If this is a problematic thing, we should communicate this to the users.
>>
>> [0] https://github.com/rpm-software-management/dnf5/issues/146
>>
>> --
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>
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1 year, 1 month
Wildfy - Install and Configure Wildfly
by John W. Himpel
Good news! I have an ansible role that installs a standalone version of
Wildfly 27 (latest release of Wildfly).
I also was able to follow the instructions found at:
https://developer.jboss.org/people/fjuma/blog/2018/08/31/obtaining-certif...
for adding ssl to Wildfly. I followed the steps for add SSL manually.
I have not yet found the time to "ansify" those steps, but that
shouldn't be too much of a problem. That will be my next effort.
After that, I plan to configure apache as a reverse proxy as a frontend
for Wildfly.
Thanks to Peter for creating the VM for testing/correcting my ansible
role. I hope he can keep the VM operational for now as it is an
invaluable test-bed.
I have taken on the task of doing the IT work for a new fledgling non-
profit corporation that I have formed to provide home/yard services to
those persons in our area who are unable to perform or hire those
services themselves. That means my time may be limited for working on
this effort until late in April 2023.
John Himpel
1 year, 1 month
