Preamble: I know we're planning to throw rolekit out entirely, but I believe we're planning to continue to consider the actual functions behind the roles (FreeIPA and postgres) as blocking, so I'd like to get this done so we remember to include it in that change.
Postamble: Back in F27 cycle, specifically in the 2017-10-23 blocker review meeting, we agreed to cover the release-blocking Server roles in the upgrade criteria. That is noted here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1503321#c7 However, we never actually made the change. So, here I am proposing it! We should change the Beta criterion 'Upgrade requirements' as follows.
Main text should go from:
"For each one of the release-blocking package sets, it must be possible to successfully complete a direct upgrade from fully updated installations of the last two stable Fedora releases with that package set installed."
to:
"For each one of the release-blocking package sets, and the package sets for each of the release-blocking Server roles, it must be possible to successfully complete a direct upgrade from fully updated installations of the last two stable Fedora releases with that package set installed."
I think that's actually all the change necessary, as the bullet point "The upgraded system must meet all release criteria" then requires that the upgraded roles actually work.
Thoughts? Thanks!
On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 8:15 PM, Adam Williamson awilliam@redhat.com wrote:
Preamble: I know we're planning to throw rolekit out entirely, but I believe we're planning to continue to consider the actual functions behind the roles (FreeIPA and postgres) as blocking, so I'd like to get this done so we remember to include it in that change.
Postamble: Back in F27 cycle, specifically in the 2017-10-23 blocker review meeting, we agreed to cover the release-blocking Server roles in the upgrade criteria. That is noted here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1503321#c7 However, we never actually made the change. So, here I am proposing it! We should change the Beta criterion 'Upgrade requirements' as follows.
Main text should go from:
"For each one of the release-blocking package sets, it must be possible to successfully complete a direct upgrade from fully updated installations of the last two stable Fedora releases with that package set installed."
to:
"For each one of the release-blocking package sets, and the package sets for each of the release-blocking Server roles, it must be possible to successfully complete a direct upgrade from fully updated installations of the last two stable Fedora releases with that package set installed."
I think that's actually all the change necessary, as the bullet point "The upgraded system must meet all release criteria" then requires that the upgraded roles actually work.
Thoughts? Thanks!
Sounds OK to me.
On Thu, 2018-03-29 at 11:15 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
Preamble: I know we're planning to throw rolekit out entirely, but I believe we're planning to continue to consider the actual functions behind the roles (FreeIPA and postgres) as blocking, so I'd like to get this done so we remember to include it in that change.
Postamble: Back in F27 cycle, specifically in the 2017-10-23 blocker review meeting, we agreed to cover the release-blocking Server roles in the upgrade criteria. That is noted here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1503321#c7 However, we never actually made the change. So, here I am proposing it! We should change the Beta criterion 'Upgrade requirements' as follows.
Main text should go from:
"For each one of the release-blocking package sets, it must be possible to successfully complete a direct upgrade from fully updated installations of the last two stable Fedora releases with that package set installed."
to:
"For each one of the release-blocking package sets, and the package sets for each of the release-blocking Server roles, it must be possible to successfully complete a direct upgrade from fully updated installations of the last two stable Fedora releases with that package set installed."
I think that's actually all the change necessary, as the bullet point "The upgraded system must meet all release criteria" then requires that the upgraded roles actually work.
Thoughts? Thanks!
So, funny story: I just went to implement this and noticed I actually *already* proposed a change for this purpose last year:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/server@lists.fedoraproject.org...
There were no objections to either proposal. I kinda like that one more, so I'm just going to go ahead and implement that one. :)
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