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SL6 to F16??
by Beartooth 01 Nov '11

01 Nov '11

I've been playing with Scientific Linux on an oldish machine, and now I want to try F16 with xfce -- *not* live, but installed, with the .iso on a DVD. I realize that requires me to install the gnome version and then add xfce. Do I just command "yum install xfce," or is there something more esoteric? In the course of playing with SL, I've put spare copies of various data into it, and of course tweaked all sorts of things, many of them a tad bit tedious; I'd like to preserve them into the F16 install. Is there a way Fedora can treat SL6 as if I were upgrading earlier Fedora install? I see this : $ uname -a Linux Hbsk.localdomain 2.6.32-131.17.1.el6.i686 #1 SMP Wed Oct 5 17:20:08 CDT 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux There's plenty of space for dual-booting. I suppose I could install into free space, boot to it, mount the SL partition, and copy stuff. But that sounds like needless hassle to me, even if I got all of it right. Is there another way?? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is.

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TV Tuner cards?
by Alex 01 Nov '11

01 Nov '11

Hi, I'm interested in a TV tuner card that I can connect to my roof antenna with a RG6 coax, and wondered if anyone had any suggestions? I've used the Happauge cards in the past, but that was quite some time ago. I've found the linuxtv.org page, and although they have a list of available TV tuners, they don't really give any impression on which have the best features, etc. I'd probably also like to set up MythTV at some point. Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks, Alex

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Drawer in xfce?
by Beartooth 01 Nov '11

01 Nov '11

I'm running xfce on an expendable laptop (under F16, in case that matters) which can also boot into gnome. How do I add a drawer or three to a panel? -- Beartooth Staffwright

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F15, konqueror sometimes hangs
by Doug Wyatt 31 Oct '11

31 Oct '11

After the most recent updates to kde, I'm seeing konqueror hang every few hours, with no identifiable cause. What I see is that all currently running konqueror windows stop responding or refreshing. If konqueror is obscured by another window, when that window is minimized the konqueror window will present as all grey. The hang will eventually resolve and konqueror again becomes useable. The duration of the hang is more than 10 minutes and less than 60 minutes. I'm not sure how i can more accurately measure the duration of the hang, short of staring at the screen for the duration. Load levels don't seem abnormal, other apps continue to work ok. There is plenty of free memory - 200-400 MB. CPU usage is low. FWIW, I was seeing similar behavior when starting gwenview before the last kde update. I would start qwenview to view a jpeg and it would come up as a greyed-out window, then some time (> 5 mins) later the image and gwenview menus would finally appear. Any ideas? Regards, D Wyatt

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Verbose output from Daemons on startup
by Nathan D'elboux 31 Oct '11

31 Oct '11

Hi All, I have built a new Linux box recently, have been using Fedora for years so decided to stick with it and put Fedora 15 on it I am familiar with strace and redirecting STOUT and STDERR for debugging apps on the CLI but what i am unfamiliar with is on bootup When the list of daemons begin to start up and eventually gets the [OK] message i have 1 daemon that will hang So my question is, is there some way whether it be by Console port or rescue disk can i get a verbose output of what the daemon is doing when attempting to boot up so i can verify what part exactly it is failing at? I want to possibly pipe all STOUT to another box via console or just on local screen but i want a verbose output so i can see more detail of what the kernel is doing on bootup behind the scenes I tried explaining it as well as i could so i apologize if some people get confused. I can post any other details needed if need be like Specs etc Thanks guys Cheers,Nathan

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Re: [FSF] Stand up for your freedom to install free software
by Errol Mangwiro 31 Oct '11

31 Oct '11

Hmmm, is it a concidence that I tried to sign the petition (twice) and didn't get the confirmation email in hotmail account but when I tried on my gmail it worked?? (>_<) _______ Behold, they are one people, and this is only the beginning of what they will do. And nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them. Genesis 11:6 -----Original Message----- From: Lucélio Gomes de Freitas <aa.lucelio(a)gmail.com> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 19:08:13 To: <users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> Subject: [FSF] Stand up for your freedom to install free software -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Dear Supporters, * Please join us in signing the statement: /Stand up for your freedom to install free software/ <http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot/statement> <http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot/statement> The free software movement has come a long way over the past 25+ years. While we still face many challenges ahead for us to create a world in which it is normal and expected for computer users to have freedom, we have made steady progress. Right now, however, there is a potential threat that could put us back years. Microsoft has announced that if computer makers wish to distribute machines with the Windows 8 compatibility logo, they will have to implement a measure called "Secure Boot." When done correctly, "Secure Boot" is designed to protect against malware by preventing computers from loading unauthorized binary programs when booting. In practice, this means that computers implementing it won't boot unauthorized or modified operating systems. This could be a feature deserving of the name, as long as the /user/ is able to authorize the programs she wants to use, so she can run free software written and modified by herself or people she trusts. However, we are concerned that Microsoft and hardware manufacturers will implement these boot restrictions in a way that will prevent users from booting anything other than unmodified Windows. In this case, a better name for the technology would be Restricted Boot, since such a requirement would be a severe restriction on computer users and not a security feature at all. We're looking at a world in which it could become impossible for the average user to install GNU/Linux on any new computer, so too much is at stake for us to wait and see if computer manufacturers will do the right thing. "Secure Boot" could all too easily become a euphemism for restriction and control by computer makers and Microsoft -- freedom and security necessitate users being in charge of their own computers. So please, join us in signing this statement against Restricted Boot, and consider encouraging your friends, family, and colleagues to do the same. If you are part of an organization or company that would like to prominently show their support, please contact us at campaigns(a)fsf.org <mailto:campaigns@fsf.org> <mailto:campaigns@fsf.org> <mailto:campaigns@fsf.org> . For your convenience, here is a list of additional articles and resources related to this statement: * Public statement: http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot/statement * Press release: http://www.fsf.org/news/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot-in-windows-8 * Detailed explanation of the issue: http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot Sincerely, John Sullivan Executive Director Free Software Foundation - -- Follow us on identi.ca at http://identi.ca/fsf | Subscribe to our blogs via RSS at http://fsf.org/blogs/RSS Join us as an associate member at http://fsf.org/jf Sent from the Free Software Foundation, 51 Franklin Street Fifth Floor Boston, MA 02110-1335 United States - -- Lucélio Gomes de Freitas ETFCSF-> U.G.F.-> P.U.C.(RJ) Engº, Analista Suporte(Free Mind). Email: aa.lucelio(a)gmail.com <mailto:aa.lucelio@gmail.com> Tel: 55 0XX 21 85964911 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iF4EAREIAAYFAk6dzpIACgkQENqGaHfBA/d/0gEAtgxngsxOM6UbJz5YAp+1a/ky pPwR0r8acc6/ShIFubwBALF0/MYkypmuTIsYKApGAF8JmZAJw+qhSY9DVJHkElWY =TW53 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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problems while installing softwares
by rohit bishnoi 30 Oct '11

30 Oct '11

i have fedora 16 beta 64-bit installed on system. when i try to install software i will get some error mesgs like below... *[root@bishnoi rohit]# ./AdbeRdr9.4-1_i486linux_enu.bin bash: ./AdbeRdr9.4-1_i486linux_enu.bin: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: bad ELF interpreter: No such file or directory [root@bishnoi rohit]# sh VP_Suite_Linux.sh Unpacking JRE ... Preparing JRE ... VP_Suite_Linux.sh: bin/unpack200: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: bad ELF interpreter: No such file or directory Error unpacking jar files. Abortin*g. plz tell me wtz tht prblm. thnks in advance..

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Fun and games with 3TB hard drives.
by linux guy 30 Oct '11

30 Oct '11

Today I bought 2 3 TB hard drives to use in my new server. I'm writing this in case other people aren't aware that some of the traditional hard drive management methods don't work for drives larger than 2 TB. Specifically, fdisk and MSDOS type partition tables. Here is how I created a single partition on my 3 TB drives. Via parted. #parted -a optimal /dev/sdb (parted) rm 1 <- this removed the 2TB partition that fdisk made. NOTE: fdisk has a 2 TB limit, apparently forced by MSDOS style partition tables. Ever heard the story about how the width of a donkey ultimately determined the diameter of the space shuttle ? (parted) mklabel gpt <- this is NOT making a label for the drive. "man parted" is your friend. (parted) mkpart primary ext4 1 -1 <- this makes the partition itself, using the entire drive, which is what I wanted. (parted) print (parted) quit # mkfs -text4 /dev/sdb1 <- this formats the partition #e2label /dev/sdb1 myth <- this gives it a label, as used by mount in fstab, ie "LABEL=..." Via gparted. It turns out that the whole process can be done from within gparted, if you know what you are doing. The first thing you need to do is create the partition table. IF you have used fdisk on the drive previously, the partition table type is going to MSDOS, which has the 2TB limit. If you continue with the MSDOS partition table, gparted will allow you to select a 3TB partition to make, but it will give you the following error: partition length of 5860528002 sectors exceeds the msdos-partition-table-imposed maximum of 4294967295 To get around this, select Advanced on the partition table options window and set the partition table type to gpt. Then you can proceed as you normally would to partition a drive with gparted. Ie add new partition(s), set the partition type, labels, etc. At this point you have an ext4 formatted 3TB drive. However, in F15 KDE at least, it doesn't seem to automount like a drive with an MSDOS partition table. The drive will not automatically appear in the Places column in Dolphin, for example. Nor will it appear in the list created by df. However, it is available to manually mount. Ie, #mount /dev/sdb1 temp, just like the old days.* And once you do that, it appears in the df list, though still not in the Places column in Dolphin. I hope this helps someone. *This might be particular to my machine being that the drive is a hot swap SATA device and I did not remove it and replace it. However, drives with MSDOS type partition tables auto mounted using the very same command sequence.

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irqbalance in fedora15
by Benjamin 30 Oct '11

30 Oct '11

Hi, I want to configure irqbalance on both cpus.I have 2 lan interface one is wan and second is lan , currently i have 2 cpu and wan is falling on cpu0 and lan is also falling on cpu0.And now i want to set both interface should be fall on both cpus. How to do it? cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 23 model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU E7500 @ 2.93GHz stepping : 10 cpu MHz : 2933.727 cache size : 3072 KB physical id : 0 siblings : 2 core id : 0 cpu cores : 2 apicid : 0 initial apicid : 0 fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 13 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts aperfmperf pni monitor tm2 ssse3 lahf_lm dts bogomips : 5867.45 clflush size : 64 cache_alignment : 64 address sizes : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual power management: processor : 1 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 23 model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU E7500 @ 2.93GHz stepping : 10 cpu MHz : 2933.727 cache size : 3072 KB physical id : 0 siblings : 2 core id : 1 cpu cores : 2 apicid : 1 initial apicid : 1 fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 13 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts aperfmperf pni monitor tm2 ssse3 lahf_lm dts bogomips : 5866.47 clflush size : 64 cache_alignment : 64 address sizes : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual power management: cat /proc/interrupts CPU0 CPU1 0: 258 743 IO-APIC-edge timer 1: 653 651 IO-APIC-edge i8042 8: 1798940 2243825 IO-APIC-edge rtc0 9: 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi acpi 12: 5479 68 IO-APIC-edge i8042 14: 0 0 IO-APIC-edge ata_piix 15: 0 0 IO-APIC-edge ata_piix 16: 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi uhci_hcd:usb5 18: 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi uhci_hcd:usb4 19: 465089 466793 IO-APIC-fasteoi ata_piix, uhci_hcd:usb3 21: 8153 2619593 IO-APIC-fasteoi _p2p1_ 23: 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi ehci_hcd:usb1, uhci_hcd:usb2 40: 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge PCIe PME 41: 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge PCIe PME, pciehp 42: 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge PCIe PME, pciehp 43: 138 330 PCI-MSI-edge i915 44: 7261040 445 PCI-MSI-edge _p10p1_ 45: 143 147 PCI-MSI-edge hda_intel NMI: 876 739 Non-maskable interrupts LOC: 5102916 3854827 Local timer interrupts SPU: 0 0 Spurious interrupts PMI: 876 739 Performance monitoring interrupts IWI: 0 0 IRQ work interrupts RES: 5645 5530 Rescheduling interrupts CAL: 1424 1909 Function call interrupts TLB: 24029 20181 TLB shootdowns TRM: 0 0 Thermal event interrupts THR: 0 0 Threshold APIC interrupts MCE: 0 0 Machine check exceptions MCP: 883 883 Machine check polls ERR: 1 MIS: 0 Regards, Benjamin

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Secure boot issue addendum
by Errol Mangwiro 29 Oct '11

29 Oct '11

------Original Message------ From: John Jaarsveld Sender: chat-bounces(a)freenetproject.org To: Matthew Toseland Cc: chat(a)freenetproject.org Subject: Re: [freenet-chat] "Designed for Windows 8" = "Won't run Linux ever" Sent: Oct 29, 2011 2:53 PM > New trusted boot feature, supposedly to prevent malware (snip) Although I also think it is a particular foul move of Microsoft it may not turn out as bad as it seems: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/canonical-seek-to-allay-windows-8-secure… greetz John _______________________________________________ chat mailing list chat(a)freenetproject.org Archived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat Or mailto:chat-request@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe _______ Behold, they are one people, and this is only the beginning of what they will do. And nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them. Genesis 11:6

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