Re: Speaking of language support...

[Hiisi]

>  Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 09:18:57 -0500
>  From: "Mikkel L. Ellertson" <mikkel(a)infinity-ltd.com&gt;
>  Subject: Re: Speaking of language support...
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>  It is setting the default language. The user has the option of
>  changing it for his/her login. I am not sure if it changes the
>  language the logs are in - I have never checked.
>
>  Mikkel
>  -- 
No, it won't. I'm running finnish interface. CUPS logs are in pure 
english. But many other things in terminal or in boot stage are in 
finnsh.

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Speaking of language support...

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Mon, 2009-08-03 at 18:10 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>  I stand corrected. You have reminded me of some of the strange
>  translations of tech manuals written in other languages into
>  English. I especially like the earth wire. (Ground wire.) 
That's not a translation problem. It's a difference of usage between US
and the UK English (like lift-elevator, tap-faucet, crisps-chips, and so
on ad nauseam). Two countries divided by a common language.

poc

Speaking of language support...

[Steve Searle]

Around 12:10am on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 (UK time), Mikkel L. Ellertson scrawled:

>  I stand corrected. You have reminded me of some of the strange
>  translations of tech manuals written in other languages into
>  English. I especially like the earth wire. (Ground wire.) 
What's wrong with earth wire?

Steve

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Speaking of language support...

[Mikkel]

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>  On Mon, 2009-08-03 at 13:08 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> > Hiisi wrote:
> >> No, it won't. I'm running finnish interface. CUPS logs are in pure
> >> english. But many other things in terminal or in boot stage are in finnsh.
> >>
> > Maybe you should file a request for enhancement to get log messages
> > messages in the system language instead of English. It is something
> > that needs to be done, but if nobody asks for it, it will not get
> > done... There is also a need for people to translate messages into
> > other languages.
>  
>  I work almost entirely in a Spanish-speaking environment, but I've
>  actually found that most computer professionals are much happier with
>  system messages and logs in English and many prefer even menus to be in
>  English. Maybe that varies according to which part of the world we're
>  talking about, but the fact that the English-language messages are
>  standardized is a huge factor (e.g. you can look them up in Google).
>  Another factor is the wildly variant translations one finds for the same
>  terminology across different apps and translators.
>  
>  Having the option is probably good, but it's interesting that localizing
>  these kinds of messages can actually impede comprehension.
>  
>  <insert comparison with medieval Latin or diplomatic French here>
>  
>  poc
>   
I stand corrected. You have reminded me of some of the strange
translations of tech manuals written in other languages into
English. I especially like the earth wire. (Ground wire.)

I have to admit being limited to English. I have forgotten the
French and German I learned years ago...

Mikkel
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Speaking of language support...

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Mon, 2009-08-03 at 13:08 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>  Hiisi wrote:
>  > 
>  > No, it won't. I'm running finnish interface. CUPS logs are in pure
>  > english. But many other things in terminal or in boot stage are in finnsh.
>  > 
>  Maybe you should file a request for enhancement to get log messages
>  messages in the system language instead of English. It is something
>  that needs to be done, but if nobody asks for it, it will not get
>  done... There is also a need for people to translate messages into
>  other languages. 
I work almost entirely in a Spanish-speaking environment, but I've
actually found that most computer professionals are much happier with
system messages and logs in English and many prefer even menus to be in
English. Maybe that varies according to which part of the world we're
talking about, but the fact that the English-language messages are
standardized is a huge factor (e.g. you can look them up in Google).
Another factor is the wildly variant translations one finds for the same
terminology across different apps and translators.

Having the option is probably good, but it's interesting that localizing
these kinds of messages can actually impede comprehension.

<insert comparison with medieval Latin or diplomatic French here>

poc

Speaking of language support...

[Mikkel]

Hiisi wrote:
>  
>  No, it won't. I'm running finnish interface. CUPS logs are in pure
>  english. But many other things in terminal or in boot stage are in finnsh.
>   
Maybe you should file a request for enhancement to get log messages
messages in the system language instead of English. It is something
that needs to be done, but if nobody asks for it, it will not get
done... There is also a need for people to translate messages into
other languages.

Mikkel
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