Ugly little hand

[Jonathan Ryshpan]

The cursor that displays over desktop icons and links in Firefox, among
other places -- a little black hand pointing up -- is really ugly.  (At
least I think so.)  How can it be changed?  
        Appearance Preferences->Theme->Customize Theme 
allows changing the default cursor but not others.

Same question for the whirling circle that displays when the system is
busy.

Thanks - jon

Ugly little hand [Solved]

[Fred Smith]

On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 06:01:58PM -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
>  On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 19:55 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
>  > The cursor that displays over desktop icons and links in Firefox, among
>  > other places -- a little black hand pointing up -- is really ugly.  (At
>  > least I think so.)  How can it be changed?  
>  >         Appearance Preferences->Theme->Customize Theme 
>  > allows changing the default cursor but not others.
>  
>  I was confused because only one cursor-theme was installed, namely
>  dmz-cursor-theme (the default), which made gnome cursor control
>  	System->Preferences->Appearance->Customize Theme->Pointer
>  seem not to be good for anything.  As soon as I loaded some other
>  themes, namely:
>          bluecurve-cursor-theme-8.0.2.5.fc12.noarch
>          moblin-cursor-theme-0.3.2.noarch
>          oxygen-cursor-themes-4.4.3.1.fc13.1.noarch
>  this choice box became very useful.
>  
>  > Same question for the whirling circle that displays when the system is
>  > busy.
>  
>  This may be better too.  Haven't been able to check so far. 
Actually, on my F13 netbook, (at least) some apps still display the ugly
black wait-busy icon, while others (firefox, at least) use the white hand
with whirling blue stuff around it. This is after installing all the gnome
bluecurve stuff I could find.

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Ugly little hand [Solved]

[Jonathan Ryshpan]

On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 19:55 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
>  The cursor that displays over desktop icons and links in Firefox,
> among
>  other places -- a little black hand pointing up -- is really ugly.  (At
>  least I think so.)  How can it be changed?  
>          Appearance Preferences->Theme->Customize Theme 
>  allows changing the default cursor but not others. 
I was confused because only one cursor-theme was installed, namely
dmz-cursor-theme (the default), which made gnome cursor control
	System->Preferences->Appearance->Customize Theme->Pointer
seem not to be good for anything.  As soon as I loaded some other
themes, namely:
        bluecurve-cursor-theme-8.0.2.5.fc12.noarch
        moblin-cursor-theme-0.3.2.noarch
        oxygen-cursor-themes-4.4.3.1.fc13.1.noarch
this choice box became very useful.

>  Same question for the whirling circle that displays when the system
> is
>  busy. 
This may be better too.  Haven't been able to check so far.

Thanks to all - jon

Ugly little hand (and annoying progress animation...)

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 08:52 -0500, Steven P. Ulrick wrote:
>  I changed my mouse pointer theme to Oxygen Black in KDE's System
>  Settings.  That worked fine except in Firefox and Google Chrome. 
These are both Gnome apps, so you need to configure the Gnome settings.
Try gnome-control-center. You might also take a look at GTK+ Appearance
under Settings->Appearance. I'm hazy on the details, but this may
require the gtk-qt-engine theme engine
(http://code.google.com/p/gtk-qt-engine/).

poc

Ugly little hand (and annoying progress animation...)

[Steven P. Ulrick]

>  > On Tue, 1 Jun 2010, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
>  > 
>  > > Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 19:55:19 -0700
>  > > From: Jonathan Ryshpan <jonrysh(a)pacbell.net&gt;
>  > > To: Fedora List <fedora-list(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  > > X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,
>  > >     UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=unavailable version=3.2.5
>  > > Subject: Ugly little hand
>  > >
>  > > The cursor that displays over desktop icons and links in Firefox, among
>  > > other places -- a little black hand pointing up -- is really ugly.  (At
>  > > least I think so.)  How can it be changed?
>  > >         Appearance Preferences->Theme->Customize Theme
>  > > allows changing the default cursor but not others.
>  > >
>  > > Same question for the whirling circle that displays when the system is
>  > > busy.
>  > 
>  > Well, you can switch back to Bluecurve (as I did).
>  > Just edit:
>  > 
>  > 	/usr/share/icons/default/index.theme
>  > 
>  > and replace
>  > 
>  > 	Inherits=dmz-aa
>  > 
>  > with
>  > 
>  > 	Inherits=Bluecurve
>  > 
>  > Be sure you have bluecurve-cursor-theme installed (yum install
>  > bluecurve-cursor-theme).
>  > 
>  > Restart X. That's all.
>  
>  I would love to get rid of it completely.  I changed my mouse pointer theme to 
>  Oxygen Black in KDE's System Settings.  That worked fine except in Firefox and 
>  Google Chrome.  There I still have the ugly hand.  I even changed 
>  "/usr/share/icons/default/index.theme" to read as follows:
>  [Icon Theme]
>  Inherits=Oxygen_Black
>  
>  After logging out and logging back in, I still have that ugly hand.
>  
>  What I would also love to get rid of is the little animation that takes place  
by 
>  the cursor when it is waiting for something to complete.  I looked
> through the 
>  mouse pointer themes in System Settings for one that did not have that 
>  animation, or just some way to shut it off, all to no avail...  Yes, I have 
>  Launch Feedback set to "No Busy Cursor."
>  
>  Anyway, any wisdom you can give me is greatly appreciated.  
Perhaps "System Settings | Look & Feel | Desktop | Common Settings | Various 
Animations"?  I'm trying that to see what happens.  I wonder, what other 
animations fall under the heading "Various Animations"?

Steven P. Ulrick

Ugly little hand (and annoying progress animation...)

[Steven P. Ulrick]

>  On Tue, 1 Jun 2010, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
>  
>  > Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 19:55:19 -0700
>  > From: Jonathan Ryshpan <jonrysh(a)pacbell.net&gt;
>  > To: Fedora List <fedora-list(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  > X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,
>  >     UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=unavailable version=3.2.5
>  > Subject: Ugly little hand
>  >
>  > The cursor that displays over desktop icons and links in Firefox, among
>  > other places -- a little black hand pointing up -- is really ugly.  (At
>  > least I think so.)  How can it be changed?
>  >         Appearance Preferences->Theme->Customize Theme
>  > allows changing the default cursor but not others.
>  >
>  > Same question for the whirling circle that displays when the system is
>  > busy.
>  
>  Well, you can switch back to Bluecurve (as I did).
>  Just edit:
>  
>  	/usr/share/icons/default/index.theme
>  
>  and replace
>  
>  	Inherits=dmz-aa
>  
>  with
>  
>  	Inherits=Bluecurve
>  
>  Be sure you have bluecurve-cursor-theme installed (yum install
>  bluecurve-cursor-theme).
>  
>  Restart X. That's all. 
I would love to get rid of it completely.  I changed my mouse pointer theme to 
Oxygen Black in KDE's System Settings.  That worked fine except in Firefox and 
Google Chrome.  There I still have the ugly hand.  I even changed 
"/usr/share/icons/default/index.theme" to read as follows:
[Icon Theme]
Inherits=Oxygen_Black

After logging out and logging back in, I still have that ugly hand.

What I would also love to get rid of is the little animation that takes place by 
the cursor when it is waiting for something to complete.  I looked through the 
mouse pointer themes in System Settings for one that did not have that 
animation, or just some way to shut it off, all to no avail...  Yes, I have 
Launch Feedback set to "No Busy Cursor."

Anyway, any wisdom you can give me is greatly appreciated. 

Steven P. Ulrick

[Frank Murphy]

On 02/06/10 08:52, kalinix wrote:
--snip--
>  
>  It's system specific, since I had it on KDE. I changed it from System
>  settings->Computer administration->Keyboard and mouse->Mouse->Cursor theme.
>  
>  
>  It ought be a simper way though, like changing a parameter in a text file.
>   
You can do: (but you might end up with something uglier)
yum info */cursor-theme* should give you a list of alternates.

yum erase dmz\* (the little hand, it's from opensuse)

Installed Packages
Name       : dmz-cursor-themes
Arch       : noarch
Version    : 0.4
Release    : 3.fc13
Size       : 6.2 M
Repo       : installed
> From repo  : anaconda-InstallationRepo-201005130056.i386 
Summary
   : X cursors themes
URL        : http://jimmac.musichall.cz/themes.php?skin=7
License    : CC-BY-SA
Description: An X cursors theme by Jakub Steiner used by OpenSUSE.


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SOLVED Re: Ugly little hand DMZ-Icons

[Frank Murphy]

On 02/06/10 09:32, kalinix wrote:
-snip--
>  
>  
>  Hehe, found it:
>  
>  for system-wide is in /usr/share/icons/default/index.theme
>  
>  mine reads:
>  
>  [Icon Theme]
>  Inherits=dmz-aa 
Changed the heading slightly for digest\archive readers.

Found it, works also in XFCE.

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[kalinix]

On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 08:56 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:

>  On 02/06/10 08:52, kalinix wrote:
>  --snip--
>  > 
>  > It's system specific, since I had it on KDE. I changed it from System
>  > settings->Computer administration->Keyboard and mouse->Mouse->Cursor
> theme.
>  > 
>  > 
>  > It ought be a simper way though, like changing a parameter in a text file.
>  > 
>  You can do: (but you might end up with something uglier)
>  yum info */cursor-theme* should give you a list of alternates.
>  
>  yum erase dmz\* (the little hand, it's from opensuse)
>  
>  Installed Packages
>  Name       : dmz-cursor-themes
>  Arch       : noarch
>  Version    : 0.4
>  Release    : 3.fc13
>  Size       : 6.2 M
>  Repo       : installed
>  >From repo  : anaconda-InstallationRepo-201005130056.i386
>  Summary    : X cursors themes
>  URL        : http://jimmac.musichall.cz/themes.php?skin=7
>  License    : CC-BY-SA
>  Description: An X cursors theme by Jakub Steiner used by OpenSUSE.
>  
>  
>  -- 
>  Regards,
>  
>  Frank Murphy
>  UTF_8 Encoded
>  Friend of Fedora 


Hehe, found it:

for system-wide is in /usr/share/icons/default/index.theme 

mine reads:

[Icon Theme]
Inherits=dmz-aa

which is that ugly little black hand


As I changed it to dmz, I found 'cursorTheme=dmz'
in .kde/share/config/kcminputrc (I'm a KDE user)


I knew it has to be a file   :D



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On Tue, 1 Jun 2010, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:

>  Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 19:55:19 -0700
>  From: Jonathan Ryshpan <jonrysh(a)pacbell.net&gt;
>  To: Fedora List <fedora-list(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,
>      UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=unavailable version=3.2.5
>  Subject: Ugly little hand
>  
>  The cursor that displays over desktop icons and links in Firefox, among
>  other places -- a little black hand pointing up -- is really ugly.  (At
>  least I think so.)  How can it be changed?  
>          Appearance Preferences->Theme->Customize Theme 
>  allows changing the default cursor but not others.
>  
>  Same question for the whirling circle that displays when the system is
>  busy. 
Well, you can switch back to Bluecurve (as I did).
Just edit: 

	/usr/share/icons/default/index.theme

and replace

	Inherits=dmz-aa

with

	Inherits=Bluecurve

Be sure you have bluecurve-cursor-theme installed (yum install 
bluecurve-cursor-theme).

Restart X. That's all.


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[Frank Murphy]

On 02/06/10 08:56, Frank Murphy wrote:
>  
>  yum erase dmz\* (the little hand, it's from opensuse)
>   
Bad idea of mine, want to remove 200 pkgs.


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[kalinix]

On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 07:50 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:

>  On 02/06/10 03:55, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
>  > The cursor that displays over desktop icons and links in Firefox, among
>  > other places -- a little black hand pointing up -- is really ugly.  (At
>  > least I think so.)  How can it be changed?  
>  >         Appearance Preferences->Theme->Customize Theme 
>  > allows changing the default cursor but not others.
>  > 
>  > Same question for the whirling circle that displays when the system is
>  > busy.
>  > 
>  > Thanks - jon
>  > 
>  > 
>  
>  I belive it was an upstream Gnome choice iirc?
>  
>  Have you checked to see if the "functionality" has since been
>  inbuilt to the main app.
>  
>  -- 
>  Regards,
>  
>  Frank Murphy
>  UTF_8 Encoded
>  Friend of Fedora 

It's system specific, since I had it on KDE. I changed it from System
settings->Computer administration->Keyboard and mouse->Mouse->Cursor
theme.


It ought be a simper way though, like changing a parameter in a text
file. 

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[Frank Murphy]

On 02/06/10 03:55, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
>  The cursor that displays over desktop icons and links in Firefox,
> among
>  other places -- a little black hand pointing up -- is really ugly.  (At
>  least I think so.)  How can it be changed?  
>          Appearance Preferences->Theme->Customize Theme 
>  allows changing the default cursor but not others.
>  
>  Same question for the whirling circle that displays when the system is
>  busy.
>  
>  Thanks - jon
>  
>   
I belive it was an upstream Gnome choice iirc?

Have you checked to see if the "functionality" has since been
inbuilt to the main app.

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Regards,

Frank Murphy
UTF_8 Encoded
Friend of Fedora