Why does Fedora 38 get updates so much faster than Fedora Rawhide?

[Reon Beon]

Is it because of all the openqa testing on Rawhide?

[Tim]

On Wed, 2023-02-15 at 03:47 +0000, Reon Beon via users wrote:
>  Is it because of all the openqa testing on Rawhide? 
How long is a piece of string?  Logically, there's two different roles,
and therefore different sets of users:

The general release has already been developed, and people report and
fix bugs.

The in-development release is trying out new ways to do things.  The
expectation of breakage is probably higher.

I would guess there's more people using the general releases than those
flying by the seat of the pants on the in-development one.
 
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[Kevin Fenzi]

On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 06:47:49PM +1030, Tim via users wrote:
>  On Wed, 2023-02-15 at 03:47 +0000, Reon Beon via users wrote:
>  > Is it because of all the openqa testing on Rawhide?
>  
>  How long is a piece of string?  Logically, there's two different roles,
>  and therefore different sets of users:
>  
>  The general release has already been developed, and people report and
>  fix bugs.
>  
>  The in-development release is trying out new ways to do things.  The
>  expectation of breakage is probably higher.
>  
>  I would guess there's more people using the general releases than those
>  flying by the seat of the pants on the in-development one. 
For the current time, rawhide and f38 should be getting similar amounts
of updates. You may have seen less in rawhide due to compose failures,
but in general at this point in the development cycle they should be
pretty similar. 

Starting next tuesday however, Fedora 38 will go into Beta freeze. 
So, updates-testing will be enabled, and updates will only appear for
things that fix blockers or exceptions. So, it will slow down a good
deal vs rawhide. 

Hope that helps...

kevin

[Bill C]

Interesting. I have had similar questions myself.

On Wed, Feb 15, 2023, 2:32 PM Kevin Fenzi <kevin(a)scrye.com&gt; wrote:

>  On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 06:47:49PM +1030, Tim via users wrote:
>  > On Wed, 2023-02-15 at 03:47 +0000, Reon Beon via users wrote:
>  > > Is it because of all the openqa testing on Rawhide?
>  >
>  > How long is a piece of string?  Logically, there's two different roles,
>  > and therefore different sets of users:
>  >
>  > The general release has already been developed, and people report and
>  > fix bugs.
>  >
>  > The in-development release is trying out new ways to do things.  The
>  > expectation of breakage is probably higher.
>  >
>  > I would guess there's more people using the general releases than those
>  > flying by the seat of the pants on the in-development one.
>
>  For the current time, rawhide and f38 should be getting similar amounts
>  of updates. You may have seen less in rawhide due to compose failures,
>  but in general at this point in the development cycle they should be
>  pretty similar.
>
>  Starting next tuesday however, Fedora 38 will go into Beta freeze.
>  So, updates-testing will be enabled, and updates will only appear for
>  things that fix blockers or exceptions. So, it will slow down a good
>  deal vs rawhide.
>
>  Hope that helps...
>
>  kevin
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