6:45 p.m.
I'm helping someone switch to Linux, and he's trying F30.
So I decided to put F30 (with KDE/Plasma) into a VM on my older (F26)
system.
My first 2 stumbling blocks are:
1/ Somehow (and I don't know how I did it), I seem to have created
a 'notes' window. Now I can't figure out how to get rid of it.
2/ I thought I'd configure the screen timeout to just blank the screen
and not lock it. I figure its under Settings -> System Settings ->
Power Management. But when I select it, I get the message:
Power Management configuration module could not be loaded.
The Power Management Service appears not to be running.
This can be solved by starting or scheduling it inside "Startup and
Shutdown'.
a) Switching to 'startup and shutdown' leaves that error info on the
screen
and I have to stop/start the settings GUI to clear it.
b) There isn't anything in 'startup and shutdown' related to 'power
management services'.
I tried Googling, but I haven't discovered any solutions for either problem
yet.
7:28 p.m.
On 7/10/19 7:45 AM, Fulko Hew wrote:
I'm helping someone switch to Linux, and he's trying F30.
So I decided to put F30 (with KDE/Plasma) into a VM on my older (F26) system.
My first 2 stumbling blocks are:
1/ Somehow (and I don't know how I did it), I seem to have created
a 'notes' window. Now I can't figure out how to get rid of it.
Left Click and Hold on the note. After a few seconds a "handle" will appear
with "Trash
Can" at the bottom to delete the note.
2/ I thought I'd configure the screen timeout to just blank the screen
and not lock it. I figure its under Settings -> System Settings ->
Power Management. But when I select it, I get the message:
Power Management configuration module could not be loaded.
The Power Management Service appears not to be running.
This can be solved by starting or scheduling it inside "Startup and
Shutdown'.
a) Switching to 'startup and shutdown' leaves that error info on the screen
and I have to stop/start the settings GUI to clear it.
b) There isn't anything in 'startup and shutdown' related to 'power
management services'.
I tried Googling, but I haven't discovered any solutions for either problem yet.
Screen Locking is not done in "Power Management". It is under
"Workspace", "Desktop
Behavior", "Screen Locking".
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8:32 p.m.
On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 9:16 PM Ed Greshko <ed.greshko(a)greshko.com> wrote:
On 7/10/19 7:45 AM, Fulko Hew wrote:
> I'm helping someone switch to Linux, and he's trying F30.
> So I decided to put F30 (with KDE/Plasma) into a VM on my older (F26)
system.
>
> My first 2 stumbling blocks are:
>
> 1/ Somehow (and I don't know how I did it), I seem to have created
> a 'notes' window. Now I can't figure out how to get rid of it.
Left Click and Hold on the note. After a few seconds a "handle" will
appear with "Trash
Can" at the bottom to delete the note.
Thanks. I also found that if you right click on the edge of its
window, a menu appears with a close option.
I've also found that a button-2 action on the desktop creates
a note. Where's that configured?
2/ I thought I'd configure the screen timeout to just blank the
screen
> and not lock it. I figure its under Settings -> System Settings ->
> Power Management. But when I select it, I get the message:
>
> Power Management configuration module could not be loaded.
> The Power Management Service appears not to be running.
> This can be solved by starting or scheduling it inside "Startup
and Shutdown'.
>
> a) Switching to 'startup and shutdown' leaves that error info on the
screen
> and I have to stop/start the settings GUI to clear it.
> b) There isn't anything in 'startup and shutdown' related to
'power
management services'.
>
> I tried Googling, but I haven't discovered any solutions for either
problem yet.
Screen Locking is not done in "Power Management". It is under
"Workspace", "Desktop
Behavior", "Screen Locking".
Thanks for the info on where the locking is.
Any idea about the power management error message?
8:48 p.m.
On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 9:32 PM Fulko Hew <fulko.hew(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 9:16 PM Ed Greshko
<ed.greshko(a)greshko.com> wrote:
> On 7/10/19 7:45 AM, Fulko Hew wrote:
>
... snip ...
> 2/ I thought I'd configure the screen timeout to just blank
the screen
> > and not lock it. I figure its under Settings -> System Settings ->
> > Power Management. But when I select it, I get the message:
> >
> > Power Management configuration module could not be loaded.
> > The Power Management Service appears not to be running.
> > This can be solved by starting or scheduling it inside "Startup
> and Shutdown'.
> >
> > a) Switching to 'startup and shutdown' leaves that error info on the
> screen
> > and I have to stop/start the settings GUI to clear it.
> > b) There isn't anything in 'startup and shutdown' related to
'power
> management services'.
> >
> > I tried Googling, but I haven't discovered any solutions for either
> problem yet.
>
> Screen Locking is not done in "Power Management". It is under
> "Workspace", "Desktop
> Behavior", "Screen Locking".
On further review, its not locking that I was looking for, its like
I originally asked... screen blanking.
9:02 p.m.
On 7/10/19 9:48 AM, Fulko Hew wrote:
On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 9:32 PM Fulko Hew <fulko.hew(a)gmail.com
<mailto:fulko.hew@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 9:16 PM Ed Greshko <ed.greshko(a)greshko.com
<mailto:ed.greshko@greshko.com>> wrote:
On 7/10/19 7:45 AM, Fulko Hew wrote:
... snip ...
> 2/ I thought I'd configure the screen timeout to just blank the screen
> and not lock it. I figure its under Settings -> System Settings
->
> Power Management. But when I select it, I get the message:
>
> Power Management configuration module could not be loaded.
> The Power Management Service appears not to be running.
> This can be solved by starting or scheduling it inside "Startup
and
Shutdown'.
>
> a) Switching to 'startup and shutdown' leaves that error info on
the screen
> and I have to stop/start the settings GUI to clear it.
> b) There isn't anything in 'startup and shutdown' related to
'power
management services'.
>
> I tried Googling, but I haven't discovered any solutions for either
problem yet.
Screen Locking is not done in "Power Management". It is under
"Workspace", "Desktop
Behavior", "Screen Locking".
On further review, its not locking that I was looking for, its like
I originally asked... screen blanking.
On further review I decided to take a course in "reading comprehension". Sorry
about
that.....
Yes, check to see what you get for
systemctl status upower.
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8:50 p.m.
On 7/10/19 9:32 AM, Fulko Hew wrote:
On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 9:16 PM Ed Greshko <ed.greshko(a)greshko.com
<mailto:ed.greshko@greshko.com>> wrote:
On 7/10/19 7:45 AM, Fulko Hew wrote:
> I'm helping someone switch to Linux, and he's trying F30.
> So I decided to put F30 (with KDE/Plasma) into a VM on my older (F26) system.
>
> My first 2 stumbling blocks are:
>
> 1/ Somehow (and I don't know how I did it), I seem to have created
> a 'notes' window. Now I can't figure out how to get rid of it.
Left Click and Hold on the note. After a few seconds a "handle" will
appear with "Trash
Can" at the bottom to delete the note.
Thanks. I also found that if you right click on the edge of its
window, a menu appears with a close option.
I've also found that a button-2 action on the desktop creates
a note. Where's that configured?
I do not know the answer to that. You may want to ask on the kde(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
list where more KDE users hang out.
> 2/ I thought I'd configure the screen timeout to just blank the screen
> and not lock it. I figure its under Settings -> System Settings ->
> Power Management. But when I select it, I get the message:
>
> Power Management configuration module could not be loaded.
> The Power Management Service appears not to be running.
> This can be solved by starting or scheduling it inside "Startup and
Shutdown'.
>
> a) Switching to 'startup and shutdown' leaves that error info on the
screen
> and I have to stop/start the settings GUI to clear it.
> b) There isn't anything in 'startup and shutdown' related to
'power management
services'.
>
> I tried Googling, but I haven't discovered any solutions for either problem
yet.
Screen Locking is not done in "Power Management". It is under
"Workspace", "Desktop
Behavior", "Screen Locking".
Thanks for the info on where the locking is.
Any idea about the power management error message?
What is the output in a terminal of
systemctl status upower
And what are you using for a VM? VirtualBox, VMware?
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10:13 p.m.
On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 10:39 PM Ed Greshko <ed.greshko(a)greshko.com> wrote:
On 7/10/19 9:32 AM, Fulko Hew wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 9:16 PM Ed Greshko <ed.greshko(a)greshko.com
> <mailto:ed.greshko@greshko.com>> wrote:
>
> On 7/10/19 7:45 AM, Fulko Hew wrote:
> > I'm helping someone switch to Linux, and he's trying F30.
> > So I decided to put F30 (with KDE/Plasma) into a VM on my older
(F26) system.
> >
> > My first 2 stumbling blocks are:
> >
> > 1/ Somehow (and I don't know how I did it), I seem to have created
> > a 'notes' window. Now I can't figure out how to get rid of
it.
>
> Left Click and Hold on the note. After a few seconds a "handle"
will appear with "Trash
> Can" at the bottom to delete the note.
>
>
> Thanks. I also found that if you right click on the edge of its
> window, a menu appears with a close option.
> I've also found that a button-2 action on the desktop creates
> a note. Where's that configured?
I do not know the answer to that. You may want to ask on the
kde(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
list where more KDE users hang out.
>
> > 2/ I thought I'd configure the screen timeout to just blank the
screen
> > and not lock it. I figure its under Settings -> System
Settings ->
> > Power Management. But when I select it, I get the message:
> >
> > Power Management configuration module could not be loaded.
> > The Power Management Service appears not to be running.
> > This can be solved by starting or scheduling it inside
"Startup and Shutdown'.
> >
> > a) Switching to 'startup and shutdown' leaves that error info
on the screen
> > and I have to stop/start the settings GUI to clear it.
> > b) There isn't anything in 'startup and shutdown' related
to
'power management
> services'.
> >
> > I tried Googling, but I haven't discovered any solutions for
either problem yet.
>
> Screen Locking is not done in "Power Management". It is under
"Workspace", "Desktop
> Behavior", "Screen Locking".
>
>
> Thanks for the info on where the locking is.
> Any idea about the power management error message?
>
What is the output in a terminal of
systemctl status upower
[fulko@localhost ~]$ systemctl status upower
● upower.service - Daemon for power management
Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/upower.service; disabled; vendor
preset: enabled)
Active: active (running) since Tue 2019-07-09 19:24:20 EDT; 3h 42min ago
Docs: man:upowerd(8)
Main PID: 1186 (upowerd)
Tasks: 3 (limit: 2354)
Memory: 2.4M
CGroup: /system.slice/upower.service
└─1186 /usr/libexec/upowerd
Jul 09 19:24:20 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: Starting Daemon for power
management...
Jul 09 19:24:20 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: Started Daemon for power
management.
And what are you using for a VM? VirtualBox, VMware?
Fedora's built-in VM manager (libvirt).
11:39 p.m.
On 7/10/19 11:13 AM, Fulko Hew wrote:
[fulko@localhost ~]$ systemctl status upower
● upower.service - Daemon for power management
Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/upower.service; disabled; vendor preset:
enabled)
Active: active (running) since Tue 2019-07-09 19:24:20 EDT; 3h 42min ago
Docs: man:upowerd(8)
Main PID: 1186 (upowerd)
Tasks: 3 (limit: 2354)
Memory: 2.4M
CGroup: /system.slice/upower.service
└─1186 /usr/libexec/upowerd
Jul 09 19:24:20 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: Starting Daemon for power
management...
Jul 09 19:24:20 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: Started Daemon for power management.
And what are you using for a VM? VirtualBox, VMware?
Fedora's built-in VM manager (libvirt).
OK. I normally use VirtualBox and don't see the problem
I'll confirm the problem is present using F30 libvirt with an F30 guest.
Will check to see if I can find a solution but it may take be a while.
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12:27 a.m.
On 7/10/19 12:39 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
Will check to see if I can find a solution but it may take be a
while.
OK, the problem is "power devil" is crashing.
You can fix the issue by going to the settings for the VM and for Video select VGA. It
is
most likely set to QXL.
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8:33 a.m.
On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 2:15 AM Ed Greshko <ed.greshko(a)greshko.com> wrote:
On 7/10/19 12:39 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> Will check to see if I can find a solution but it may take be a while.
OK, the problem is "power devil" is crashing.
You can fix the issue by going to the settings for the VM and for Video
select VGA. It is
most likely set to QXL.
Yup, that was it.
Thanks for the solution.
9 p.m.
On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 9:32 PM Fulko Hew <fulko.hew(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 9:16 PM Ed Greshko
<ed.greshko(a)greshko.com> wrote:
> On 7/10/19 7:45 AM, Fulko Hew wrote:
> > I'm helping someone switch to Linux, and he's trying F30.
> > So I decided to put F30 (with KDE/Plasma) into a VM on my older (F26)
> system.
> >
> > My first 2 stumbling blocks are:
> >
> > 1/ Somehow (and I don't know how I did it), I seem to have created
> > a 'notes' window. Now I can't figure out how to get rid of it.
>
> Left Click and Hold on the note. After a few seconds a "handle" will
> appear with "Trash
> Can" at the bottom to delete the note.
>
Thanks. I also found that if you right click on the edge of its
window, a menu appears with a close option.
I've also found that a button-2 action on the desktop creates
a note. Where's that configured?
I found my own answer:
Right click on the desktop, Configure desktop -> Mouse
and remove the middle button action (Paste), and that will remove the
Note creation, but leave the generic paste functionality.
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