RE: Avoiding LVM -

-----Original Message-----
From: users-bounces(a)lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:[e-mail]]
On Behalf Of Craig White
Sent: zaterdag 6 april 2013 3:45
To: users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
Subject: Re: Avoiding LVM -

On Thu, 2013-04-04 at 12:41 -0500, Matthew J. Roth wrote:
>  Joe Zeff wrote:
>  > 
>  > On 04/04/2013 08:45 AM, Bill Oliver wrote:
>  > >
>  > > I take my laptop on the road a lot, and I have work stuff on it I 
>  > > don't want the world to see.  I don't encrypt the whole disk, but 
>  > > I have an encrypted partitiion, and keep sensitive data on it.
>  >
>  > You might also consider keeping it on a flash drive with an ext4 
>  > file system, as most people who'd find it wouldn't know how to read it.
>  
>  
>  As a warning to future readers, this is just bad advice because then 
>  the files would be unencrypted on a device that is much easier to lose.
>  
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and one that has a substantially higher likelihood of failure than a hard drive. It was a
bad recommendation on so many levels. Anyone who entrusts their only copy of a valued file
to a USB flash drive is certain to learn a lesson the hard way.

Craig


-----Original Message-----
So, a better advise is to simply encrypt the entire disk,
And to keep sensitive info on an _also_ encrypted mem-stick.

If you worry about failures (loosing) the mem stick, perhaps you can put the encrypted
image on your own web-site...
Or keep an "dd"-copy of the stick in "/tmp/random.tmp" 

Security has its price, the more secure you want to feel, the higher the costs, or
efforts.

Hw


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Avoiding LVM -

[Reindl Harald]

Am 06.04.2013 17:07, schrieb J.Witvliet(a)mindef.nl:
>  If you worry about failures (loosing) the mem stick, perhaps you can
> put the encrypted image on your own web-site...
>  Or keep an "dd"-copy of the stick in "/tmp/random.tmp"  
and wonder that it is gone after tmpwatch has cleand /tmp
or with F18 defaults you have it even as tmpfs nd lost at
shutdown

when have people lost enough data to realize that /tmp is
NOT a datastorage or at least stop give such stupid hints?

Avoiding LVM -

[Tim]

Allegedly, on or about 06 April 2013, J.Witvliet(a)mindef.nl sent:
>  So, a better advise is to simply encrypt the entire disk, 
Yes.

>  And to keep sensitive info on an _also_ encrypted mem-stick.  
Dunno.  It's got to be much easier to lose a memory stick than an entire
computer.  Or, to put that another way, much easier to not notice that
you've lost a memory stick.  Whether that be accident or theft.

Considering the unreliability of memory sticks (due to read/write
wear-out, easy physical damage to the stick, etc.), I still only
consider them for their original selling point:  Like a large temporary
disc drive for playing sneakernet, or temporary secondary access to
files away from where they're really stored.

I certainly wouldn't use them as a back-up storage device, nor as a the
only storage device for precious data.

-- 
[tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp
Linux 3.8.4-102.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Mar 24 13:09:09 UTC 2013 x86_64

All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point
trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the
public lists.

My apologies for not including a virus with this message, but I don't
use Windows.

Avoiding LVM -

[Joe Zeff]

On 04/06/2013 08:07 AM, J.Witvliet(a)mindef.nl wrote:
>  and one that has a substantially higher likelihood of failure than a
> hard drive. It was a bad recommendation on so many levels. Anyone who entrusts their only
> copy of a valued file to a USB flash drive is certain to learn a lesson the hard way.
Only copy?  What ever gave you that idea?  Only a working copy to use 
while traveling.