threading broken in thunderbird-3.0b2 ?

[Lonni J Friedman]

Anyone else notice that email threading isn't working right in
thunderbird-3.0b2 ?  It worked all the time with the 2.x version from
Fedora10, and now no matter how many times I click the "Click to
display message threads" header button, its all just flat.

[Jerry Feldman]

On 07/13/2009 10:06 AM, Lonni J Friedman wrote:
>  Anyone else notice that email threading isn't working right in
>  thunderbird-3.0b2 ?  It worked all the time with the 2.x version from
>  Fedora10, and now no matter how many times I click the "Click to
>  display message threads" header button, its all just flat.
>
>     
As others have pointed out, thunderbird-3.0b2 threads fine for me on F11
x86_64 including this thread. The only thing that is missing is the
replyto-list plugin, but that feature is supposed to be built-in (There
were some fixes in Beta 3).

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[Lonni J Friedman]

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Frank Murphy<frankly3d(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>  On 14/07/09 14:57, Lonni J Friedman wrote:
>
> >
> > That's all well & good, but none of this changes the fact that
> > threading remains 100% broken for me in thunderbird-3.0b2, yet worked
> > perfectly prior to the upgrade.
> >
> >
>  Threading is fine for me in beta3pre.
>  using gmail like yourself. 
I'm not using gmail with thunderbird.  I use it for $DAYJOB.   Two
separate email accounts, unrelated.


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[Frank Murphy]

On 14/07/09 14:57, Lonni J Friedman wrote:

>  
>  That's all well & good, but none of this changes the fact that
>  threading remains 100% broken for me in thunderbird-3.0b2, yet worked
>  perfectly prior to the upgrade.
>  
>   
Threading is fine for me in beta3pre.
using gmail like yourself.

Regards,

Frank

[Lonni J Friedman]

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Patrick
O'Callaghan<pocallaghan(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>  On Tue, 2009-07-14 at 15:24 +0930, Tim wrote:
> > On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 10:34 -0500, Bradley wrote:
> > > The only problem I've had with it is that even though it gets it right
> > > most of the time, every now and then it doesn't put a response under
> > > the message it should have.
> >
> > Check the headers for such messages, the poster probably posted using a
> > broken client that destroyed the headers used for threading.  Posting
> > clients need to keep, and add to, the references headers, and change the
> > in-reply-to header, for threading to work properly.  Screw that up, as
> > many crap clients are apt to, and threading is ruined.  Using subject
> > lines and dates for message sorting is not threading.
>
>  +1
>
>  Note that the Yahoo webmail client is one of the worst offenders in this
>  regard, at least judging by many of the broken threads on this list. 
That's all well & good, but none of this changes the fact that
threading remains 100% broken for me in thunderbird-3.0b2, yet worked
perfectly prior to the upgrade.


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[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Tue, 2009-07-14 at 15:24 +0930, Tim wrote:
>  On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 10:34 -0500, Bradley wrote:
>  > The only problem I've had with it is that even though it gets it right
>  > most of the time, every now and then it doesn't put a response under
>  > the message it should have.
>  
>  Check the headers for such messages, the poster probably posted using a
>  broken client that destroyed the headers used for threading.  Posting
>  clients need to keep, and add to, the references headers, and change the
>  in-reply-to header, for threading to work properly.  Screw that up, as
>  many crap clients are apt to, and threading is ruined.  Using subject
>  lines and dates for message sorting is not threading. 
+1

Note that the Yahoo webmail client is one of the worst offenders in this
regard, at least judging by many of the broken threads on this list.

poc

[Tim]

On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 10:34 -0500, Bradley wrote:
>  The only problem I've had with it is that even though it gets it
> right
>  most of the time, every now and then it doesn't put a response under
>  the message it should have. 
Check the headers for such messages, the poster probably posted using a
broken client that destroyed the headers used for threading.  Posting
clients need to keep, and add to, the references headers, and change the
in-reply-to header, for threading to work properly.  Screw that up, as
many crap clients are apt to, and threading is ruined.  Using subject
lines and dates for message sorting is not threading.


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[Bradley]

On 07/13/2009 10:37 AM, Lonni J Friedman wrote:
>  On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 8:34 AM,
> Bradley<pursley001(a)comcast.net>  wrote:
>     
> > On 07/13/2009 09:06 AM, Lonni J Friedman wrote:
> >      
> >> Anyone else notice that email threading isn't working right in
> >> thunderbird-3.0b2 ?  It worked all the time with the 2.x version from
> >> Fedora10, and now no matter how many times I click the "Click to
> >> display message threads" header button, its all just flat.
> >>
> >>        
> > It seems to work satisfactory for me.  The only problem I've had with it is
> > that even though it gets it right most of the time, every now and then it
> > doesn't put a response under the message it should have.  That's pretty
> > rare, though.
> >      
>
>  It just about never threads anything.  Its quite rare that it ever
>  happens.  How much email volume do you get?  I typically get about
>  1500 new emails/day. 
Okay, you've got me beat there by quite a margin.  I
typically only get 
up to less than 200 per day as of lately.

Bradley

[Lonni J Friedman]

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Bradley<pursley001(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>  On 07/13/2009 09:06 AM, Lonni J Friedman wrote:
> >
> > Anyone else notice that email threading isn't working right in
> > thunderbird-3.0b2 ?  It worked all the time with the 2.x version from
> > Fedora10, and now no matter how many times I click the "Click to
> > display message threads" header button, its all just flat.
> >
>
>  It seems to work satisfactory for me.  The only problem I've had with it is
>  that even though it gets it right most of the time, every now and then it
>  doesn't put a response under the message it should have.  That's pretty
>  rare, though. 
It just about never threads anything.  Its quite rare that it ever
happens.  How much email volume do you get?  I typically get about
1500 new emails/day.


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[Bradley]

On 07/13/2009 09:06 AM, Lonni J Friedman wrote:
>  Anyone else notice that email threading isn't working right in
>  thunderbird-3.0b2 ?  It worked all the time with the 2.x version from
>  Fedora10, and now no matter how many times I click the "Click to
>  display message threads" header button, its all just flat.
>      
It seems to work satisfactory for me.  The only problem I've had with it 
is that even though it gets it right most of the time, every now and 
then it doesn't put a response under the message it should have.  That's 
pretty rare, though.

Bradley