11:07 a.m.
I need to change the address of this computer temporarily to a
192.168.2.? instead of 192.168.1.9 to connect to a device that I
reset.
There used to be a menu that I used for this but with F16/XFCE I
am lost.
Would someone be kind enough to tell me how to do this?
Bob
8:59 a.m.
On Mon, 2012-04-02 at 08:00 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 04/02/2012 07:38 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 04/02/2012 04:52 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
>> ip is not part of the iproute2 package. It is part of the iproute
>> package. So we can fix at least one misunderstanding.
> OMG.... I forgot the "-" too.... BFD.
>
>
And I forgot the () as in iproute(-2).
Everywhere one looks it is referred to this way: iproute2 is a collection of
utilities for controlling TCP and UDP IP networking and traffic control in Linux, in
both IPv4 and IPv6 networks.
The downloads from kernel.org has the latest download at iproute2-3.1.0.tar.bz2.
I suppose one could argue that fedora package it as iproute2-3.1.0
I would argue
the latest fedora package is: iproute-2.6.39-5
Why do keep saying iproute-2.. is really iproute2-...?
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12:37 a.m.
On 2012/04/01 13:45, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 04/02/2012 04:09 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> On Sun, 2012-04-01 at 09:10 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
>> On Sun, 2012-04-01 at 21:17 +0800, Alick Zhao wrote:
>>> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:56:01 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
>>>> To make ifconfig obsolete is really weird. It sounds to me that
>>>> developers of Fedora have to much time on their hands. Next I expect
>>>> they will change the name of vi. Oh, I forgot it is now vim. Where is Ed
>>>> Joy when we need him? [He was the creator of vi, in the very beginning.]
>>> AFAIK ifconfig is deprecated in favor of iproute2, which seems not
>>> specific to Fedora. See also the link below[1].
>>>
>>> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ifconfig#Current_status
>>>
>>> --
>>> alick
>>> Fedora 16 (Verne) user
>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Alick
> Let me extend my rant a little bit further. There is no program under
> F16 called iproute2.
OK, so somewhere along the line someone misspoke or a misunderstanding arose. BFD.
The man page for ifconfig simply states: "This program is obsolete! For
replacement check ip addr and ip link. For statistics use ip -s link."
The ip command is part of the iproute2 "package". Misunderstanding cleared.
I'm not
going to back in this thread to see where the problem arose, but if it is the
documentation causing it, then by all means a bugzilla should be written.
> Ifconfig is rather straight forward program that can be used to handle
> the limited things that it does. It is straightforward to use with a
> limited number of options, therefore easy to understand. The man page
> for ifconfig suggests that instead you use ip with some of its options.
> ip , unlike ifcongog is a very complex program. Its total numenr of
> options and variations is mind bogelling. Therefore to get Familist with
> its use is similarly complex. If you have a simple command that does
> what needs to be done, replacing it with an extremely complex command
> should be avoided.
>
The man page is just telling you the state of play regarding and the "Busg"
section
at the end touches on its limitations. Yes, it works just fine for most people most
of the time. Go ahead. Keep using it. Just like "nslookup", it is fine for
most
things and no reason to go ahead and concern yourself with learning "dig".
So, go ahead, keep using ifconfig. Just don't be surprised when/if at some point it
no longer is part of this or other distributions.
Unfortunately "ip" violates one of the earliest tenets of the 'ix family.
It's
command environment was envisioned as a large number of simple commands that
could be strung together to create larger capabilities. "ip" is one complex
rather hard to understand command that appears to be do everything for
everybody at the expense of simplicity. "ifconfig" is, itself, probably past
the small programs doing small things paradigm. "ip" is a behemoth trying to
be all and end all for all. It is a fundamentally bad design for its position
in the command hierarchy. But that's OK. It's free. So you have to accept what
you can get free. Were I purchasing a formal RedHat license I'd consider some
other environment if I were forced to use a small number of complex tools
rather than a larger number of simpler tools. I can make my own complex tools
as needed, thank you.
IMAO "ip" sucks dead bunnies through garden hoses.
{^_^}
7 p.m.
On 04/02/2012 07:38 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 04/02/2012 04:52 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> ip is not part of the iproute2 package. It is part of the iproute
> package. So we can fix at least one misunderstanding.
OMG.... I forgot the "-" too.... BFD.
And I forgot the () as in iproute(-2).
Everywhere one looks it is referred to this way: iproute2 is a collection of
utilities for controlling TCP and UDP IP networking and traffic control in Linux, in
both IPv4 and IPv6 networks.
The downloads from kernel.org has the latest download at iproute2-3.1.0.tar.bz2.
I suppose one could argue that fedora package it as iproute2-3.1.0
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6:38 p.m.
On 04/02/2012 04:52 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
ip is not part of the iproute2 package. It is part of the iproute
package. So we can fix at least one misunderstanding.
OMG.... I forgot the "-" too.... BFD.
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of the century. -- Dame Edna Everage
3:52 p.m.
On Mon, 2012-04-02 at 04:45 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 04/02/2012 04:09 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> On Sun, 2012-04-01 at 09:10 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
>> On Sun, 2012-04-01 at 21:17 +0800, Alick Zhao wrote:
>>> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:56:01 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
>>>> To make ifconfig obsolete is really weird. It sounds to me that
>>>> developers of Fedora have to much time on their hands. Next I expect
>>>> they will change the name of vi. Oh, I forgot it is now vim. Where is
Ed
>>>> Joy when we need him? [He was the creator of vi, in the very
beginning.]
>>> AFAIK ifconfig is deprecated in favor of iproute2, which seems not
>>> specific to Fedora. See also the link below[1].
>>>
>>> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ifconfig#Current_status
>>>
>>> --
>>> alick
>>> Fedora 16 (Verne) user
>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Alick
> Let me extend my rant a little bit further. There is no program under
> F16 called iproute2.
OK, so somewhere along the line someone misspoke or a misunderstanding arose. BFD.
The man page for ifconfig simply states: "This program is obsolete! For
replacement check ip addr and ip link. For statistics use ip -s link."
The ip command is part of the iproute2 "package". Misunderstanding cleared.
I'm not
going to back in this thread to see where the problem arose, but if it is the
documentation causing it, then by all means a bugzilla should be written.
ip is not
part of the iproute2 package. It is part of the iproute
package. So we can fix at least one misunderstanding.
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3:45 p.m.
On 04/02/2012 04:09 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Sun, 2012-04-01 at 09:10 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> On Sun, 2012-04-01 at 21:17 +0800, Alick Zhao wrote:
>> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:56:01 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
>>> To make ifconfig obsolete is really weird. It sounds to me that
>>> developers of Fedora have to much time on their hands. Next I expect
>>> they will change the name of vi. Oh, I forgot it is now vim. Where is Ed
>>> Joy when we need him? [He was the creator of vi, in the very beginning.]
>> AFAIK ifconfig is deprecated in favor of iproute2, which seems not
>> specific to Fedora. See also the link below[1].
>>
>> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ifconfig#Current_status
>>
>> --
>> alick
>> Fedora 16 (Verne) user
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Alick
Let me extend my rant a little bit further. There is no program under
F16 called iproute2.
OK, so somewhere along the line someone misspoke or a misunderstanding arose. BFD.
The man page for ifconfig simply states: "This program is obsolete! For
replacement check ip addr and ip link. For statistics use ip -s link."
The ip command is part of the iproute2 "package". Misunderstanding cleared.
I'm not
going to back in this thread to see where the problem arose, but if it is the
documentation causing it, then by all means a bugzilla should be written.
Ifconfig is rather straight forward program that can be used to
handle
the limited things that it does. It is straightforward to use with a
limited number of options, therefore easy to understand. The man page
for ifconfig suggests that instead you use ip with some of its options.
ip , unlike ifcongog is a very complex program. Its total numenr of
options and variations is mind bogelling. Therefore to get Familist with
its use is similarly complex. If you have a simple command that does
what needs to be done, replacing it with an extremely complex command
should be avoided.
The man page is just telling you the state of play regarding and the "Busg"
section
at the end touches on its limitations. Yes, it works just fine for most people most
of the time. Go ahead. Keep using it. Just like "nslookup", it is fine for
most
things and no reason to go ahead and concern yourself with learning "dig".
So, go ahead, keep using ifconfig. Just don't be surprised when/if at some point it
no longer is part of this or other distributions.
--
Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke
of the century. -- Dame Edna Everage
3:09 p.m.
On Sun, 2012-04-01 at 09:10 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Sun, 2012-04-01 at 21:17 +0800, Alick Zhao wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:56:01 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> >
> > To make ifconfig obsolete is really weird. It sounds to me that
> > developers of Fedora have to much time on their hands. Next I expect
> > they will change the name of vi. Oh, I forgot it is now vim. Where is Ed
> > Joy when we need him? [He was the creator of vi, in the very beginning.]
>
> AFAIK ifconfig is deprecated in favor of iproute2, which seems not
> specific to Fedora. See also the link below[1].
>
> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ifconfig#Current_status
>
> --
> alick
> Fedora 16 (Verne) user
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Alick
Let me extend my rant a little bit
further. There is no program under
F16 called iproute2.
Ifconfig is rather straight forward program that can be used to handle
the limited things that it does. It is straightforward to use with a
limited number of options, therefore easy to understand. The man page
for ifconfig suggests that instead you use ip with some of its options.
ip , unlike ifcongog is a very complex program. Its total numenr of
options and variations is mind bogelling. Therefore to get Familist with
its use is similarly complex. If you have a simple command that does
what needs to be done, replacing it with an extremely complex command
should be avoided.
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8:52 a.m.
On Sat, 2012-03-31 at 19:13 -0400, fred smith wrote:
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 03:56:01PM -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> To make ifconfig obsolete is really weird. It sounds to me that
> developers of Fedora have to much time on their hands. Next I expect
> they will change the name of vi. Oh, I forgot it is now vim. Where is Ed
> Joy when we need him? [He was the creator of vi, in the very beginning.]
I think you mean Bill Joy.
You are right I goofed.
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9:53 a.m.
On 2012/04/01 07:42, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 15:56:01 -0500,
Aaron Konstam <akonstam(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> To make ifconfig obsolete is really weird. It sounds to me that
> developers of Fedora have to much time on their hands. Next I expect
> they will change the name of vi. Oh, I forgot it is now vim. Where is Ed
> Joy when we need him? [He was the creator of vi, in the very beginning.]
ifconfig has been obsolete for a long time (in the sense that ip does
more stuff, not in the packaging sense).
Obsolete or not, I have macros built into my fingers that type out things
like "ifconfig eth0" when I am fishing for answers. Otherwise I hand edit
ifcfg-eth0 or its kith and kin. The GUI tool disappoints me when I try to
use it.
{^_^}
10:13 a.m.
On 2012/04/01 07:58, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 01.04.2012 16:53, schrieb jdow:
> On 2012/04/01 07:42, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 15:56:01 -0500,
>> Aaron Konstam<akonstam(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> To make ifconfig obsolete is really weird. It sounds to me that
>>> developers of Fedora have to much time on their hands. Next I expect
>>> they will change the name of vi. Oh, I forgot it is now vim. Where is Ed
>>> Joy when we need him? [He was the creator of vi, in the very beginning.]
>>
>> ifconfig has been obsolete for a long time (in the sense that ip does
>> more stuff, not in the packaging sense).
>
> Obsolete or not, I have macros built into my fingers that type out things
> like "ifconfig eth0" when I am fishing for answers. Otherwise I hand edit
> ifcfg-eth0 or its kith and kin. The GUI tool disappoints me when I try to
> use it.
+1
999 out of 1000 cases dealing with networks can be done with
ifconfig and classical network service and will hopefully
be possible this way the next 20 years for static configured
machines
ifconfig with or without a specific network device as a parameter is
my friend for information. The ifup and ifdown scripts handle most of
the rest after I've hand edited files. I don't try to use the more
arcane ifconfig capabilities. They get me into as much trouble as they
get me out of. And once ifcfg-ethX is properly edited I'm essentially
done. (One console for editing and one for up and down action.) Mostly
what I've had to do is fiddle with ifup-local to get special features
working smoothly here. (I setup to start internal network first. Then
I start external network. I fire off iptables in the ifup-local for the
external network. I have my own iptables script. Firewall tools are too
much of a pain for some of the tricks I pull. And THEN I fire off the
ntp startup. With it all in order everything works right. When they are
out of order, chaos reigns. And so far default order means something
important doesn't work right. GUI tool guarantees nothing works right.)
{o.o}
10:08 a.m.
On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 07:53:41 -0700,
jdow <jdow(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
Obsolete or not, I have macros built into my fingers that type out things
like "ifconfig eth0" when I am fishing for answers. Otherwise I hand edit
ifcfg-eth0 or its kith and kin. The GUI tool disappoints me when I try to
use it.
I do something similar with the ip command. I usually use ip addr to
list all of the addresses associated with all of the interfaces.
Sometimes ip link, if I just want to check which ones are active.
I also use it to add networks to a device when playing with cheap
routers. You can just do something like ip addr add dev eth0 192.168.1.3/24
to let you talk to a reset router that comes up on 192.168.1.1 by default.
I don't need to mess with the rest of my netowrking or change my
config in a way that affects how things come up after the next reboot.
9:58 a.m.
Am 01.04.2012 16:53, schrieb jdow:
On 2012/04/01 07:42, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 15:56:01 -0500,
> Aaron Konstam <akonstam(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> To make ifconfig obsolete is really weird. It sounds to me that
>> developers of Fedora have to much time on their hands. Next I expect
>> they will change the name of vi. Oh, I forgot it is now vim. Where is Ed
>> Joy when we need him? [He was the creator of vi, in the very beginning.]
>
> ifconfig has been obsolete for a long time (in the sense that ip does
> more stuff, not in the packaging sense).
Obsolete or not, I have macros built into my fingers that type out things
like "ifconfig eth0" when I am fishing for answers. Otherwise I hand edit
ifcfg-eth0 or its kith and kin. The GUI tool disappoints me when I try to
use it.
+1
999 out of 1000 cases dealing with networks can be done with
ifconfig and classical network service and will hopefully
be possible this way the next 20 years for static configured
machines
9:46 a.m.
On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 09:10:45 -0500,
Aaron Konstam <akonstam(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On Sun, 2012-04-01 at 21:17 +0800, Alick Zhao wrote:
Again I am confused. ifconfig is an executable. iproute2 is a
directory containing non-executables. How then does iproute2 replace
ifconfig?
iproute is a package. It includes commands like ip for working with
routes and interfaces and tc for doing traffic control. rpm -ql iproute
will list all of the files in the package.
9:42 a.m.
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 15:56:01 -0500,
Aaron Konstam <akonstam(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
To make ifconfig obsolete is really weird. It sounds to me that
developers of Fedora have to much time on their hands. Next I expect
they will change the name of vi. Oh, I forgot it is now vim. Where is Ed
Joy when we need him? [He was the creator of vi, in the very beginning.]
ifconfig has been obsolete for a long time (in the sense that ip does
more stuff, not in the packaging sense).
9:10 a.m.
On Sun, 2012-04-01 at 21:17 +0800, Alick Zhao wrote:
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:56:01 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
>
> To make ifconfig obsolete is really weird. It sounds to me that
> developers of Fedora have to much time on their hands. Next I expect
> they will change the name of vi. Oh, I forgot it is now vim. Where is Ed
> Joy when we need him? [He was the creator of vi, in the very beginning.]
AFAIK ifconfig is deprecated in favor of iproute2, which seems not
specific to Fedora. See also the link below[1].
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ifconfig#Current_status
--
alick
Fedora 16 (Verne) user
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Alick
Again I am confused. ifconfig is an executable. iproute2 is a
directory containing non-executables. How then does iproute2 replace
ifconfig?
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8:17 a.m.
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:56:01 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
To make ifconfig obsolete is really weird. It sounds to me that
developers of Fedora have to much time on their hands. Next I expect
they will change the name of vi. Oh, I forgot it is now vim. Where is Ed
Joy when we need him? [He was the creator of vi, in the very beginning.]
AFAIK ifconfig is deprecated in favor of iproute2, which seems not
specific to Fedora. See also the link below[1].
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ifconfig#Current_status
--
alick
Fedora 16 (Verne) user
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Alick
5:15 a.m.
On Sat, 2012-03-31 at 14:55 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:
This is a minimum quality IP Camera [Zonet zvc7611w] that I use to
watch the front driveway. I pressed the reset button and then can find
the cdrom with the support information and have found nothing on-line
and got no response from Zonet. Not surprisingly it is a discontinued
product. It would overheat and fail until I added vent holes and a
tiny fan to both of them, I have two.
You should be able to access it, even from a different network, unless
*IT* is denying access to the other network address, that makes things
more difficult. If it isn't, and you can change your netmask, at least,
it should be easily accessible.
If you can't change a netmask, and if you have a router on your network
(like an ADSL modem/router), it can be used as a gateway between your
networks.
I notice, later in the thread, a mention lack of the tools you want to
play with in the current incarnation of Fedora. If you still have a
live CD of an older release? You could boot up that, and use it to
reconfigure your camera.
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6:13 p.m.
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 03:56:01PM -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
To make ifconfig obsolete is really weird. It sounds to me that
developers of Fedora have to much time on their hands. Next I expect
they will change the name of vi. Oh, I forgot it is now vim. Where is Ed
Joy when we need him? [He was the creator of vi, in the very beginning.]
I think you mean Bill Joy.
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"And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father,
Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government there will be no end. He
will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding
it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever."
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5:44 p.m.
Am 01.04.2012 00:39, schrieb Bob Goodwin - Zuni:
On 03/31/2012 04:01 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 03/31/2012 12:50 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
>> I tried yum whatprovides Network Device Control with no luck,
>> That's probably not the name it wants,
>
> system-config-network is what you're looking for. And, I've checked: you can
change the IP address there quite
> easily.
And that enabled me to access the IP Camera and reset the
address to 192.168.1.51 as required to work in my system.
Thanks much,
Bob
for this cases i have a windows virtual machine with MSIE7
with bridged-network configured at the following ip-addresses
three benefits:
* no re-configure of work.machines
* can access each network device with vendor-address
* most of the crap needs MSIE for web-interface
192.168.196.105
192.168.172.105
192.168.10.105
192.168.2.105
192.168.1.105
10.10.0.105
10.0.0.105
5:39 p.m.
On 03/31/2012 04:01 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 03/31/2012 12:50 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
> I tried yum whatprovides Network Device Control with no luck,
> That's probably not the name it wants,
system-config-network is what you're looking for. And, I've checked:
you can change the IP address there quite easily.
And that enabled me to access the IP Camera and reset the
address to 192.168.1.51 as required to work in my system.
Thanks much,
Bob
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box7
2:50 p.m.
On 03/31/2012 03:26 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 03/31/2012 11:55 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> I have neither of those although I think Network Device Control
> is what I used in the past?
I migrated from Gnome2 to XFCE, so I probably have stuff in my menus
from Gnome. If your box has always been XFCE you might not have some
of the things I do. It's also possible that you have them, but
they're not in the menu.
I tried yum whatprovides Network Device Control with no luck,
That's probably not the name it wants, and I don't think I have
been able to use it for a while, maybe it's not compatible with
network manager ...
Anyway I've put that project aside for a while and put this
computer in its place, just installed memory that came in
today's mail, have 6 gigs now.
Thanks for the help,
Bob
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box7
3:56 p.m.
On Sat, 2012-03-31 at 14:55 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:
On 03/31/2012 01:13 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 03/31/2012 09:07 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
>> There used to be a menu that I used for this but with F16/XFCE I
>> am lost.
>>
>> Would someone be kind enough to tell me how to do this?
>
> From the main menu, go to Applications, Administration. I have both
> Network and Network Device Control. If one doesn't help, try the other.
I have neither of those although I think Network Device Control
is what I used in the past?
Man ifconfig says: NOTE This program is obsolete! For
replacement check ip addr and ip link. For statistics use ip -s
link.
I did that: ip addr 192.168.2.0/24 dev em1
I also tried:
route add -net 192.168.2.0/24 em1
Which leaves me wondering how to verify the change has been added and then how do
I access the unknown device. it is supposed to default to an address in the 192.168.2
subnet which I can access from Firefox however I haven't been able to find it with a
few trial and error attempts. There must be a logical approach to this?
This is a minimum quality IP Camera [Zonet zvc7611w] that I use to watch the
front driveway. I pressed the reset button and then can find the cdrom with the support
information and have found nothing on-line and got no response from Zonet. Not
surprisingly it is a discontinued product. It would overheat and fail until I added vent
holes and a tiny fan to both of them, I have two.
Bob
To make ifconfig obsolete is really weird. It sounds to me that
developers of Fedora have to much time on their hands. Next I expect
they will change the name of vi. Oh, I forgot it is now vim. Where is Ed
Joy when we need him? [He was the creator of vi, in the very beginning.]
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3:15 p.m.
On 03/31/2012 04:01 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 03/31/2012 12:50 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
> I tried yum whatprovides Network Device Control with no luck,
> That's probably not the name it wants,
system-config-network is what you're looking for. And, I've checked:
you can change the IP address there quite easily.
Yes that is it. yum took seven seconds to download and install
it with my new satellite system! That's satisfying since I've
had a lot of grief with this changeover, it feels good when
stuff works for a change!
I convinced the installers that they could do their checkout
from this Linux system, didn't need Windows, they left favorably
impressed.
Bob
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3:01 p.m.
On 03/31/2012 12:50 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
I tried yum whatprovides Network Device Control with no luck,
That's probably not the name it wants,
system-config-network is what you're looking for. And, I've checked:
you can change the IP address there quite easily.
2:26 p.m.
On 03/31/2012 11:55 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
I have neither of those although I think Network Device
Control
is what I used in the past?
I migrated from Gnome2 to XFCE, so I probably have stuff in my menus
from Gnome. If your box has always been XFCE you might not have some of
the things I do. It's also possible that you have them, but they're not
in the menu.
1:55 p.m.
On 03/31/2012 01:13 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 03/31/2012 09:07 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> There used to be a menu that I used for this but with F16/XFCE I
> am lost.
>
> Would someone be kind enough to tell me how to do this?
From the main menu, go to Applications, Administration. I have both
Network and Network Device Control. If one doesn't help, try the other.
I have neither of those although I think Network Device Control
is what I used in the past?
Man ifconfig says: NOTE This program is obsolete! For
replacement check ip addr and ip link. For statistics use ip -s
link.
I did that: ip addr 192.168.2.0/24 dev em1
I also tried:
route add -net 192.168.2.0/24 em1
Which leaves me wondering how to verify the change has been added and then how do
I access the unknown device. it is supposed to default to an address in the 192.168.2
subnet which I can access from Firefox however I haven't been able to find it with a
few trial and error attempts. There must be a logical approach to this?
This is a minimum quality IP Camera [Zonet zvc7611w] that I use to watch the front
driveway. I pressed the reset button and then can find the cdrom with the support
information and have found nothing on-line and got no response from Zonet. Not
surprisingly it is a discontinued product. It would overheat and fail until I added vent
holes and a tiny fan to both of them, I have two.
Bob
12:13 p.m.
On 03/31/2012 09:07 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
There used to be a menu that I used for this but with
F16/XFCE I
am lost.
Would someone be kind enough to tell me how to do this?
From the main menu, go to Applications, Administration. I have both
Network and Network Device Control. If one doesn't help, try the other.
11:41 a.m.
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On 03/31/2012 11:07 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
I need to change the address of this computer temporarily to a
192.168.2.? instead of 192.168.1.9 to connect to a device that I
reset.
There used to be a menu that I used for this but with F16/XFCE I
am lost.
Would someone be kind enough to tell me how to do this?
Bob
You could run:
sudo route add -net 192.168.2.0/24 eth0
from a terminal. This will add a route to the 192.168.2.0/24 network
that you can use to talk to the device without changing your IP address.
Mikkel
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Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and
taste good with Ketchup!
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11:10 a.m.
On 03/31/2012 12:07 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
I need to change the address of this computer temporarily to a
192.168.2.? instead of 192.168.1.9 to connect to a device that I
reset.
There used to be a menu that I used for this but with F16/XFCE I
am lost.
Would someone be kind enough to tell me how to do this?
man ifconfig
12:51 a.m.
On 2012/04/02 07:45, Joe Zeff wrote:
You do know, don't you, that the official unit of Suckyness is the
LoveLace?[1] How many Ll is that?
[1]http://www.wlug.org.nz/LoveLace
I'm a little concerned that this definition lacks a temperature coefficient.
Surely the hotter it gets, the easier it would be to suck the balls?
Z
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