Can Fedora run on Lenovo ThinkPad T430?

[Oliver Ruebenacker]

     Hello,

  Is it at all possible to run Fedora on a Lenovo ThinkPad T430 without
crashing three to five times per day? Has any one been able to do this?

  That is my experience. I'm on F20. Today, there were some update,
including a new kernel, which made things worse, and now it won't boot into
the latest kernel at all.

  Windows 8 on same machine runs fine (it's dual-boot with GRUB going
first).

  I have been having these problems since months. I always, thought, maybe
with the next update, things will get better, but they haven't. I might
just give up on Fedora.

  Thanks!

     Best,
     Oliver

-- 
Oliver Ruebenacker
Founder at Relomics Consulting <http://www.relomics.com>
Be always grateful, but never satisfied.

[Jerry Feldman]

I run Fedora 20 on a T420 with absolutely no problems and no crashes.

On 04/07/2014 03:30 PM, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote:
>       Hello,
>
>    Is it at all possible to run Fedora on a Lenovo ThinkPad T430
>  without crashing three to five times per day? Has any one been able to
>  do this?
>
>    That is my experience. I'm on F20. Today, there were some update,
>  including a new kernel, which made things worse, and now it won't boot
>  into the latest kernel at all.
>
>    Windows 8 on same machine runs fine (it's dual-boot with GRUB going
>  first).
>
>    I have been having these problems since months. I always, thought,
>  maybe with the next update, things will get better, but they haven't.
>  I might just give up on Fedora.
>
>    Thanks!
>
>       Best,
>       Oliver
>
>  -- 
>  Oliver Ruebenacker
>  Founder at Relomics Consulting <http://www.relomics.com>
>  Be always grateful, but never satisfied.
>
>  
-- 
Jerry Feldman <gaf(a)blu.org&gt;
Boston Linux and Unix
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PGP Key fingerprint: 49E2 C52A FC5A A31F 8D66  C0AF 7CEA 30FC 3BC1 EB90

[Frank Pikelner]

Just to let you know, I run Ubuntu 12.04 and it is very stable on the
T430s. I run Fedora 17/18 on T410 without any issues, but have not tried on
T430s.

Best,

Frank


On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 3:31 AM, Pal, Laszlo (private) <vlad(a)vlad.hu&gt; wrote:

>  On 04/07/2014 09:30 PM, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote:
>
>
>        Hello,
>
>     Is it at all possible to run Fedora on a Lenovo ThinkPad T430 without
>  crashing three to five times per day? Has any one been able to do this?
>
>  I'm running FC20 on exactly the same machine. There is no crash, however
>  day2day I'm facing with different issues (audit log craziness, high io
>  because of this, can't connect to some of the wifi network and so on..),
>  this is why we love Fedora, it keeps our mind fresh and challenged :)
>
>  L:
>
>
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[Oliver Ruebenacker]

     Hello,

On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 3:31 AM, Pal, Laszlo (private) <vlad(a)vlad.hu&gt; wrote:

>  On 04/07/2014 09:30 PM, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote:
>
>
>        Hello,
>
>     Is it at all possible to run Fedora on a Lenovo ThinkPad T430 without
>  crashing three to five times per day? Has any one been able to do this?
>
>  I'm running FC20 on exactly the same machine. There is no crash, however
>  day2day I'm facing with different issues (audit log craziness, high io
>  because of this, can't connect to some of the wifi network and so on..),
>  this is why we love Fedora, it keeps our mind fresh and challenged :)
>
>  L:
>  
  Good to hear that it is possible. What graphics driver(s) do you use?

  Today's update included a new kernel that won't boot either. Now the
latest two kernels on my laptop won't boot.

     Best,
     Oliver


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Be always grateful, but never satisfied.

[CS DBA]

On 04/08/2014 02:04 PM, Mark Haney wrote:
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> > Not sure if it's relevant but I'm running F20 on a new thinkpad
> > W540 with no issues, they seem to have very similar hardware, just
> > stay away from the 7260 intel wireless cards
> >
> >
>  I concur.  We have 3 T430s for our mechanical and embedded engineers
>  running F20 without problems.  But, the first one we purchased had one
>  of the 7260 cards and it was just a joke.  Ended up shipping it back
>  and ordering one without that card.  (I think the new ones have
>  Broadcom cards, I'm not certain now, it's been a while since I
>  configured them.) 
I considered sending mine back as well but one of the hardware guys we 
work with at one of our clients showed me how to replace the wireless 
chip on a laptop.  It's DEAD EASY... so I ordered a 6235 series chip 
(should be here today).  Meanwhile I simply blacklisted the driver for 
the built in 7260 and added a USB wireless device - works like a charm


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>  Mark Haney
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[Mark Haney]

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> > 
>  Not sure if it's relevant but I'm running F20 on a new thinkpad
>  W540 with no issues, they seem to have very similar hardware, just
>  stay away from the 7260 intel wireless cards
>  
>   
I concur.  We have 3 T430s for our mechanical and embedded engineers
running F20 without problems.  But, the first one we purchased had one
of the 7260 cards and it was just a joke.  Ended up shipping it back
and ordering one without that card.  (I think the new ones have
Broadcom cards, I'm not certain now, it's been a while since I
configured them.)


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Mark Haney
Network/Systems Administrator
Practichem
W: [phone]
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[CS DBA]

On 04/08/2014 02:46 AM, EGO.II-1 wrote:
>  I've had Fedora running on a T-420 since FC18.......and I've
> never had 
>  any problems. I'm thinking about getting a T-430, but if there's gonna 
>  be issues with the kernel or other features....I might hold off until 
>  FC21.
>
>
>  EGO II
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  On 04/07/2014 05:13 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> > On 04/07/2014 12:46 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> >> I see a Kernel bug go out every boot, but it is flagged as from a
> >> tainted kernel, so probably nothing will get fixed for that.
> >
> > Same here, but I'm running F20 with Xfce on a Toshiba Satellite L305. 
> > Not sure what's tainting the kernel, but once it's finished booting, 
> > it's rock solid.
>  
Not sure if it's relevant but I'm running F20 on a new thinkpad W540 
with no issues, they seem to have very similar hardware, just stay away 
from the 7260 intel wireless cards

[Robert Arkiletian]

On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:46 AM, EGO.II-1 <eoconnor25(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  I've had Fedora running on a T-420 since FC18.......and I've
> never had any
>  problems. I'm thinking about getting a T-430, but if there's gonna be issues
>  with the kernel or other features....I might hold off until FC21.
>  
Beware Lenovo has changed the keyboard (no more seventh row and large
ESC and DEL key) on the newer T430 chiclet keyboard. It's not as good
for programmers or sys admins using vim. They also took away the real
mouse buttons after the T430.

[EGO-II.1]

I've had Fedora running on a T-420 since FC18.......and I've never had 
any problems. I'm thinking about getting a T-430, but if there's gonna 
be issues with the kernel or other features....I might hold off until FC21.


EGO II






On 04/07/2014 05:13 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
>  On 04/07/2014 12:46 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> > I see a Kernel bug go out every boot, but it is flagged as from a
> > tainted kernel, so probably nothing will get fixed for that.
>
>  Same here, but I'm running F20 with Xfce on a Toshiba Satellite L305. 
>  Not sure what's tainting the kernel, but once it's finished booting, 
>  it's rock solid.

[Pal, Laszlo]

On 04/07/2014 09:30 PM, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote:
>       Hello,
>
>    Is it at all possible to run Fedora on a Lenovo ThinkPad T430
>  without crashing three to five times per day? Has any one been able to
>  do this? 
I'm running FC20 on exactly the same machine. There is no crash,
however
day2day I'm facing with different issues (audit log craziness, high io
because of this, can't connect to some of the wifi network and so on..),
this is why we love Fedora, it keeps our mind fresh and challenged :)

L:

[Joe Zeff]

On 04/07/2014 12:46 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>  I see a Kernel bug go out every boot, but it is flagged as from a
>  tainted kernel, so probably nothing will get fixed for that. 
Same here, but I'm running F20 with Xfce on a Toshiba Satellite L305. 
Not sure what's tainting the kernel, but once it's finished booting, 
it's rock solid.

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 04/07/2014 04:21 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote:
>  On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 03:46:50PM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> > On 04/07/2014 03:30 PM, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote:
> >>      Hello,
> >>
> >>   Is it at all possible to run Fedora on a Lenovo ThinkPad T430 without
> >> crashing three to five times per day? Has any one been able to do this?
> > I am on a Lenovo x120e and it stays up for days.  Now-a-days.  Gnome does
> > restart every so often, and I see a Kernel bug go out every boot, but it is
> > flagged as from a tainted kernel, so probably nothing will get fixed for
> > that.
>  I am on a x240, I sometimes see the wifi driver crash but I canot report
>  it; my kernel is tainted by AFS.  Also sleep doesn't work, other than
>  this everything is good.
>  
I can suspend, but not hibernate.  This is known about the x120e. But I 
can only suspend if external monitor is off.  So first I disconnect the 
monitor, then <Fn-F7> and it switches to LCD only mode, THEN suspend.  
That works MOST of the time.

[Suvayu Ali]

On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 03:46:50PM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>  
>  On 04/07/2014 03:30 PM, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote:
>  >
>  >     Hello,
>  >
>  >  Is it at all possible to run Fedora on a Lenovo ThinkPad T430 without
>  >crashing three to five times per day? Has any one been able to do this?
>  
>  I am on a Lenovo x120e and it stays up for days.  Now-a-days.  Gnome does
>  restart every so often, and I see a Kernel bug go out every boot, but it is
>  flagged as from a tainted kernel, so probably nothing will get fixed for
>  that. 
I am on a x240, I sometimes see the wifi driver crash but I canot report
it; my kernel is tainted by AFS.  Also sleep doesn't work, other than
this everything is good.

-- 
Suvayu

Open source is the future. It sets us free.

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 04/07/2014 03:30 PM, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote:
>       Hello,
>
>    Is it at all possible to run Fedora on a Lenovo ThinkPad T430 
>  without crashing three to five times per day? Has any one been able to 
>  do this? 
I am on a Lenovo x120e and it stays up for days.  Now-a-days.  Gnome 
does restart every so often, and I see a Kernel bug go out every boot, 
but it is flagged as from a tainted kernel, so probably nothing will get 
fixed for that.

>    That is my experience. I'm on F20. Today, there were some update, 
>  including a new kernel, which made things worse, and now it won't boot 
>  into the latest kernel at all.
>
>    Windows 8 on same machine runs fine (it's dual-boot with GRUB going 
>  first).
>
>    I have been having these problems since months. I always, thought, 
>  maybe with the next update, things will get better, but they haven't. 
>  I might just give up on Fedora.
>
>    Thanks!
>
>       Best,
>       Oliver
>
>  -- 
>  Oliver Ruebenacker
>  Founder at Relomics Consulting <http://www.relomics.com>
>  Be always grateful, but never satisfied.
>
>

[Digimer]

On 07/04/14 03:30 PM, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote:
>        Hello,
>
>     Is it at all possible to run Fedora on a Lenovo ThinkPad T430 without
>  crashing three to five times per day? Has any one been able to do this?
>
>     That is my experience. I'm on F20. Today, there were some update,
>  including a new kernel, which made things worse, and now it won't boot
>  into the latest kernel at all.
>
>     Windows 8 on same machine runs fine (it's dual-boot with GRUB going
>  first).
>
>     I have been having these problems since months. I always, thought,
>  maybe with the next update, things will get better, but they haven't. I
>  might just give up on Fedora.
>
>     Thanks!
>
>        Best,
>        Oliver 
I'm on the W530 and Fedora 20, and I rarely crash now. However, I used 
to get a lot of crashes, which seemed to be related to the mouse driver. 
I could usually trigger this crash by opening virt-manager, opening a VM 
and moving the VM's desktop window around. I think it was fixed though 
because, as I said, I've not had crashes recently.

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