When I send email to fedora-users list, I get emails replies from @naver.com

[Dan Thurman]

Does anyone have this problem?  It seems that
my email messages are somehow being intercepted
from this @naver.com site.

Looks like a Korean or Chinese site but I am not
sure what it is.

[Ed Greshko]

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
>  Does anyone have this problem?  It seems that
>  my email messages are somehow being intercepted
>  from this @naver.com site.
>
>  Looks like a Korean or Chinese site but I am not
>  sure what it is.
>
>  
It is Korean....

Maybe you can post one of the replies and it can be determined what is
going on?

A guess...

Someone with an @naver.com email address is subscribed to the list and
since you have "Reply-To" set you are getting their vacation
message....or some such thing. 

I'm never a fan of "test" messages...but why not reply to this with your
"Reply-To" deleted and see if it makes a difference.



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[Dan Thurman]

Ed Greshko wrote:
>  Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
>    
> > Does anyone have this problem?  It seems that
> > my email messages are somehow being intercepted
> > from this @naver.com site.
> >
> > Looks like a Korean or Chinese site but I am not
> > sure what it is.
> >
> >
> >     
>  It is Korean....
>
>  Maybe you can post one of the replies and it can be determined what is
>  going on?
>
>  A guess...
>
>  Someone with an @naver.com email address is subscribed to the list and
>  since you have "Reply-To" set you are getting their vacation
>  message....or some such thing. 
>
>  I'm never a fan of "test" messages...but why not reply to this with your
>  "Reply-To" deleted and see if it makes a difference.
>     
Ok, thanks for the tip!

Dan

[Ed Greshko]

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
>  Ed Greshko wrote:
> > Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> >  
> >> Does anyone have this problem?  It seems that
> >> my email messages are somehow being intercepted
> >> from this @naver.com site.
> >>
> >> Looks like a Korean or Chinese site but I am not
> >> sure what it is.
> >>
> >>
> >>     
> > It is Korean....
> >
> > Maybe you can post one of the replies and it can be determined what is
> > going on?
> >
> > A guess...
> >
> > Someone with an @naver.com email address is subscribed to the list and
> > since you have "Reply-To" set you are getting their vacation
> > message....or some such thing.
> > I'm never a fan of "test" messages...but why not reply to this with
> your
> > "Reply-To" deleted and see if it makes a difference.
> >   
>  Ok, thanks for the tip!
>
>  
Welcome....

(This is actually a test too....wonder if I will get the naver email...)


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[Ed Greshko]

Ed Greshko wrote:
>  Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
>    
> > Ed Greshko wrote:
> >     
> >> Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> >>  
> >>       
> >>> Does anyone have this problem?  It seems that
> >>> my email messages are somehow being intercepted
> >>> from this @naver.com site.
> >>>
> >>> Looks like a Korean or Chinese site but I am not
> >>> sure what it is.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>     
> >>>         
> >> It is Korean....
> >>
> >> Maybe you can post one of the replies and it can be determined what is
> >> going on?
> >>
> >> A guess...
> >>
> >> Someone with an @naver.com email address is subscribed to the list and
> >> since you have "Reply-To" set you are getting their vacation
> >> message....or some such thing.
> >> I'm never a fan of "test" messages...but why not reply to this with
> your
> >> "Reply-To" deleted and see if it makes a difference.
> >>   
> >>       
> > Ok, thanks for the tip!
> >
> >
> >     
>  Welcome....
>
>  (This is actually a test too....wonder if I will get the naver email...)
>
>     
And, it has been verified....

An email from NAVER-MAILER(a)naver.com is queued to come here....but it
didn't arrive in my inbox yet since I have grey listing....not sure if
it will ever make it due to my spam rules...  We'll see....

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[Dan Thurman]

Ed Greshko wrote:
>  Ed Greshko wrote:
>    
> > Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> >     
> >> Ed Greshko wrote:
> >>       
> >>> Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> >>>         
> >>>> Does anyone have this problem?  It seems that
> >>>> my email messages are somehow being intercepted
> >>>> from this @naver.com site.
> >>>>
> >>>> Looks like a Korean or Chinese site but I am not
> >>>> sure what it is.
> >>>>           
> >>> It is Korean....
> >>>
> >>> Maybe you can post one of the replies and it can be determined what is
> >>> going on?
> >>>
> >>> A guess...
> >>>
> >>> Someone with an @naver.com email address is subscribed to the list and
> >>> since you have "Reply-To" set you are getting their vacation
> >>> message....or some such thing.
> >>> I'm never a fan of "test" messages...but why not reply to this
> with your
> >>> "Reply-To" deleted and see if it makes a difference.
> >>>         
> >> Ok, thanks for the tip!
> >>       
> > Welcome....
> >
> > (This is actually a test too....wonder if I will get the naver email...)
> >     
>  And, it has been verified....
>
>  An email from NAVER-MAILER(a)naver.com is queued to come here....but it
>  didn't arrive in my inbox yet since I have grey listing....not sure if
>  it will ever make it due to my spam rules...  We'll see....
>     
What do you mean by testing?  What exactly are you testing?  Sending
me email or via fedora-users, or directly to naver.com?  What is this
test you are doing, so that I can understand what the mechanism is?

Thanks!
Dan

[Ed Greshko]

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
>  Ed Greshko wrote:
> > Ed Greshko wrote:
> >  
> >> Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> >>    
> >>> Ed Greshko wrote:
> >>>      
> >>>> Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> >>>>        
> >>>>> Does anyone have this problem?  It seems that
> >>>>> my email messages are somehow being intercepted
> >>>>> from this @naver.com site.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Looks like a Korean or Chinese site but I am not
> >>>>> sure what it is.
> >>>>>           
> >>>> It is Korean....
> >>>>
> >>>> Maybe you can post one of the replies and it can be determined
> >>>> what is
> >>>> going on?
> >>>>
> >>>> A guess...
> >>>>
> >>>> Someone with an @naver.com email address is subscribed to the list
> >>>> and
> >>>> since you have "Reply-To" set you are getting their vacation
> >>>> message....or some such thing.
> >>>> I'm never a fan of "test" messages...but why not reply to
> this
> >>>> with your
> >>>> "Reply-To" deleted and see if it makes a difference.
> >>>>         
> >>> Ok, thanks for the tip!
> >>>       
> >> Welcome....
> >>
> >> (This is actually a test too....wonder if I will get the naver
> >> email...)
> >>     
> > And, it has been verified....
> >
> > An email from NAVER-MAILER(a)naver.com is queued to come here....but it
> > didn't arrive in my inbox yet since I have grey listing....not sure if
> > it will ever make it due to my spam rules...  We'll see....
> >   
>
>  What do you mean by testing?  What exactly are you testing?  Sending
>  me email or via fedora-users, or directly to naver.com?  What is this
>  test you are doing, so that I can understand what the mechanism is?
>
>  
Oh....  If you look at the message that I sent to the list at Wed, 01
Apr 2009 09:26:34 +0800 you will see that I added a "Reply-To:" of
Ed.Greshko(a)greshko.com.  When I did that I go an email back from the
mail system at naver.com telling me that chl0731(a)naver.com no longer can
receive emails.

So, I am just confirming that since you have a "Reply-To" set in your
Tbird configuration you will get these messages.

Now, the bad part is that chl0731(a)naver.com cannot receive any messages
so nobody can ask them nicely to unsubscribe.  

So....either remove the "Reply-To:"  (which isn't necessary since it is
the same as your From) or ask the nice fedora list maintainers to remove
that email from the subscribed list.



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lo! now it is evening, and nothing memorable is accomplished. -- H.D.
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[Dan Thurman]

Ed Greshko wrote:
>  Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
>    
> > Ed Greshko wrote:
> >     
> >> Ed Greshko wrote:
> >>  
> >>       
> >>> Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> >>>    
> >>>         
> >>>> Ed Greshko wrote:
> >>>>      
> >>>>           
> >>>>> Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> >>>>>        
> >>>>>             
> >>>>>> Does anyone have this problem?  It seems that
> >>>>>> my email messages are somehow being intercepted
> >>>>>> from this @naver.com site.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Looks like a Korean or Chinese site but I am not
> >>>>>> sure what it is.
> >>>>>>           
> >>>>>>               
> >>>>> It is Korean....
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Maybe you can post one of the replies and it can be determined
> >>>>> what is
> >>>>> going on?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A guess...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Someone with an @naver.com email address is subscribed to the list
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> since you have "Reply-To" set you are getting their
> vacation
> >>>>> message....or some such thing.
> >>>>> I'm never a fan of "test" messages...but why not reply
> to this
> >>>>> with your
> >>>>> "Reply-To" deleted and see if it makes a difference.
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>             
> >>>> Ok, thanks for the tip!
> >>>>       
> >>>>           
> >>> Welcome....
> >>>
> >>> (This is actually a test too....wonder if I will get the naver
> >>> email...)
> >>>     
> >>>         
> >> And, it has been verified....
> >>
> >> An email from NAVER-MAILER(a)naver.com is queued to come here....but it
> >> didn't arrive in my inbox yet since I have grey listing....not sure if
> >> it will ever make it due to my spam rules...  We'll see....
> >>   
> >>       
> > What do you mean by testing?  What exactly are you testing?  Sending
> > me email or via fedora-users, or directly to naver.com?  What is this
> > test you are doing, so that I can understand what the mechanism is?
> >
> >
> >     
>  Oh....  If you look at the message that I sent to the list at Wed, 01
>  Apr 2009 09:26:34 +0800 you will see that I added a "Reply-To:" of
>  Ed.Greshko(a)greshko.com.  When I did that I go an email back from the
>  mail system at naver.com telling me that chl0731(a)naver.com no longer can
>  receive emails.
>
>  So, I am just confirming that since you have a "Reply-To" set in your
>  Tbird configuration you will get these messages.
>
>  Now, the bad part is that chl0731(a)naver.com cannot receive any messages
>  so nobody can ask them nicely to unsubscribe.  
>
>  So....either remove the "Reply-To:"  (which isn't necessary since it is
>  the same as your From) or ask the nice fedora list maintainers to remove
>  that email from the subscribed list.
>     
Ok!  Thanks for the details, it's clear to me now!

I will remove my Reply-To: field and also request send a
request to remove @naver.com email from the mailing list!

[Tim]

On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 22:23 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
>  Now, the bad part is that chl0731(a)naver.com cannot receive any
>  messages so nobody can ask them nicely to unsubscribe.  
>
>  So....either remove the "Reply-To:"  (which isn't necessary since it
>  is the same as your From) or ask the nice fedora list maintainers to
>  remove that email from the subscribed list. 
You'd hope that the list server could do that automatically.  I receive
a monthly subscription reminder from the list, it seems appropriate to
me that if my mail service sent some sort of "refused" or "vacation"
messages back as a reply, that the list server could suspend my account.

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Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored.  I
read messages from the public lists.

[Ed Greshko]

Tim wrote:
>  On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 22:23 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
>    
> > Now, the bad part is that chl0731(a)naver.com cannot receive any
> > messages so nobody can ask them nicely to unsubscribe.  
> >
> > So....either remove the "Reply-To:"  (which isn't necessary since it
> > is the same as your From) or ask the nice fedora list maintainers to
> > remove that email from the subscribed list.
> >     
>
>  You'd hope that the list server could do that automatically.  I receive
>  a monthly subscription reminder from the list, it seems appropriate to
>  me that if my mail service sent some sort of "refused" or "vacation"
>  messages back as a reply, that the list server could suspend my account.
>
>     
You would hope so....  Yet it is possible that the email server at
naver.com recognizes mailing list traffic and doesn't send rejects to
the list server but only to the Reply-To header.....

My system here avoids sending vacation notices to mailing lists....

[max]

Tim wrote:
>  On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 22:23 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > Now, the bad part is that chl0731(a)naver.com cannot receive any
> > messages so nobody can ask them nicely to unsubscribe.  
> >
> > So....either remove the "Reply-To:"  (which isn't necessary since it
> > is the same as your From) or ask the nice fedora list maintainers to
> > remove that email from the subscribed list.
>  
>  You'd hope that the list server could do that automatically.  I receive
>  a monthly subscription reminder from the list, it seems appropriate to
>  me that if my mail service sent some sort of "refused" or "vacation"
>  messages back as a reply, that the list server could suspend my account.
>   
Are all vacation replies in one standard format that is easily 
recognized? Do they include something special in the header perhaps?

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[Bruno Wolff III]

On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 23:47:29 +0800,
  Ed Greshko <Ed.Greshko(a)greshko.com&gt; wrote:
>  You would hope so....  Yet it is possible that the email server at
>  naver.com recognizes mailing list traffic and doesn't send rejects to
>  the list server but only to the Reply-To header..... 
It shouldn't be doing that either. Vacation messages should be sent
to the envelope sender address, not the from or reply-to addresses.

[Bruno Wolff III]

On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 11:55:27 -0400,
  m <maximilianbianco(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  Are all vacation replies in one standard format that is easily  
>  recognized? Do they include something special in the header perhaps? 
No. A lot of them were written by people who didn't know what they were
doing and do a number of brain damaged things.