fc kernels vs standard?

[Mike Wright]

Hi all,

I was trying to apply the ipset patch to the kernel shipped with fc4 and 
it didn't take.  The patch README advised that it may not apply cleanly 
to distro specific kernels.  I'd really like to be able to use the 
extensions to netfilter.

Could somebody point out (or point me to) the differences between the 
stock kernels from kernel.org and those generated for fedora, and why?

Been running RH in production since 5.2.  Hate to have to change 
platforms because the fc kernel has diverged so far from the standard.

Thanks for any help,
Mike Wright

[Mark Haney]

Mike Wright wrote:
>  Hi all,
>
>  I was trying to apply the ipset patch to the kernel shipped with fc4 
>  and it didn't take.  The patch README advised that it may not apply 
>  cleanly to distro specific kernels.  I'd really like to be able to use 
>  the extensions to netfilter.
>
>  Could somebody point out (or point me to) the differences between the 
>  stock kernels from kernel.org and those generated for fedora, and why?
>
>  Been running RH in production since 5.2.  Hate to have to change 
>  platforms because the fc kernel has diverged so far from the standard.
>  
I think you'll find that all distros will exhibit more or less the same 
issues with that patch.  All distros I know of patch their kernels in 
specific ways depending on the distro.  You're best bet is to compile a 
vanilla kernel with the netfilter extensions patch.  In fact, even if 
that patch did take in the Fedora version, I'm not sure I'd try to use 
it.  If I need a specific patch that's not part of a distros kernel, I 
always go vanilla for it.



-- 
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Mark Haney
Sr. Systems Administrator
ERC Broadband
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[Gilboa Davara]

On Thu, 2006-11-02 at 12:05 -0800, Mike Wright wrote:
>  Hi all,
>  
>  I was trying to apply the ipset patch to the kernel shipped with fc4 and 
>  it didn't take.  The patch README advised that it may not apply cleanly 
>  to distro specific kernels.  I'd really like to be able to use the 
>  extensions to netfilter.
>  
>  Could somebody point out (or point me to) the differences between the 
>  stock kernels from kernel.org and those generated for fedora, and why?
>  
>  Been running RH in production since 5.2.  Hate to have to change 
>  platforms because the fc kernel has diverged so far from the standard.
>  
>  Thanks for any help,
>  Mike Wright
>   
I don't know if "diverge from standard" is the right word here
considering the fact that a single new-line might break the patch.
You have two options:
A. Check what's broken and fix the patch. Unless something is really
broken (and assuming you have sufficient C experience) it should be
pretty trivial to fix.
B. Use a vanilla kernel. It should work just fine.

BTW, you might want to upgrade to a newer FC version. FC4 has been moved
to legacy mode.

- Gilboa

[Mike Wright]

Gilboa Davara wrote:
>  On Thu, 2006-11-02 at 12:05 -0800, Mike Wright wrote:
> >
> >Could somebody point out (or point me to) the differences between the 
> >stock kernels from kernel.org and those generated for fedora, and why?
> >
> >Been running RH in production since 5.2.  Hate to have to change 
> >platforms because the fc kernel has diverged so far from the standard.
> >
>  I don't know if "diverge from standard" is the right word here
>  considering the fact that a single new-line might break the patch.
>  You have two options:
>  A. Check what's broken and fix the patch. Unless something is really
>  broken (and assuming you have sufficient C experience) it should be
>  pretty trivial to fix.
>  B. Use a vanilla kernel. It should work just fine.
>  
>  BTW, you might want to upgrade to a newer FC version. FC4 has been moved
>  to legacy mode. 
New server coming up.  FC6 disk #4.iso completing download as I type.

:m)