Mappery : uncertain success with Fedora/Wine/Garmin

[Beartooth]

	Followups set to gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general

    I'm presently running four PCs, two thinkpad laptops (a T30 and a
T42), and an EeePC (which doesn't come into this). Everything but my #1 PC
is running Fedora 11, and all of them have some version of Garmin
Mapsource MetroGuide and TopoUSA2008. Most of them also have DeLorme
TopoUSA6, Maptech's Appalachian Trail suite, or both.

     On one laptop, the software not only doesn't launch, but crashes the
whole machine -- after which I have to wait a   surprisingly long time
before I can reboot.

     On all the others, the Garmin software (but not the DeLorme) does
launch and run. Iirc, on the other laptop it does also talk to my GPSs; it
does not talk to them (nor even see them, alas!) on any of the three F11
PCs -- that's why #1 is still running F10 instead of F11. #1 (only) also
has a second hard drive, on which XPProSP2 is installed -- native OS for
all the mapware suites. (I have another suite from Topo.com, sold by
National Geographic, which I haven't tried lately.)

    My installs/upgrades of F11 have been partly with media and partly
with the new preupgrade command; both have sometimes bollixed things so
badly that I eventually had to do a clean install; the preupgrade has also
gone smoothly a couple of times.

    The Fedora repositories now contain six or eight apps for Garmin, and
more (with a lot of overlap) for GPSs in general; I have tried to install
all of both on all machines. I don't know why the other three PCs can't
see the GPSs.

     If I find the reason and get them to do it soon, I'll upgrade all of
PC #1 to F11, and have a house free of M$h!t again. If not, I'll try to
preserve XP on its drive for another round...

	Anybody have a guess -- or a way to find out -- why the same
software connects to the same GPSs on two machines, but not on four
others??





-- 
Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User
I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is.

Mappery : TRIUMPH at last, at long, long last

[Beartooth]

On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:09:13 +0000, I Beartooth had written:

>  Followups set to gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general
>  
>      I'm presently running four PCs, two thinkpad laptops (a T30 and a
>  T42), and an EeePC (which doesn't come into this). Everything but my #1
>  PC is running Fedora 11, and all of them have some version of Garmin
>  Mapsource MetroGuide and TopoUSA2008. Most of them also have DeLorme
>  TopoUSA6, Maptech's Appalachian Trail suite, or both. 
	[....]
>  	Anybody have a guess -- or a way to find out -- why the same
>  software connects to the same GPSs on two machines, but not on four
>  others?? 
	Well, meseems I'm a fool, if not a triple-damn-fool -- but a 
mighty happy one (in the end).

	The denouement started when I had occasion (in the otherwise 
irrelevant thread in fedora.general about a washed-out [id est, faded] 
display) to shutdown and reboot all four PCs.

	When I rebooted #1, after the upgrade to F11, I thought to let it 
boot to XP and check the map suites there. They failed. I supposed the 
cybergods had slipped a nasty knife between my ribs. Not so. Blessed be 
their names!

	Finally I thought to check my cablery. Sure enough, the one I'd 
been testing with ran to #2, and one that had gotten buried in the 
paperstorm was on #1.

	I straightend that out. Lo! and Behold!, not only #1 but now #2 
do immediately find the GPSs -- and the transfers finish as slick as a 
whistle.

	Calloo, callay! Champagne is *strongly* indicated -- and so is my 
best single malt. After nearly eleven years' wait, I may go buy a bottle 
of rich man's champagne. And the last vestige of M$ will disappear off 
the dual boot drive, and out of my house, forthwith.

	All regulars on these lists are invited to help celebrate -- in 
person, should ye happen to pass nigh Blacksburg.

-- 
Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User
I think I just found out where up is.

[Tony Frame]

From: "Beartooth" <beartooth(a)comcast.net&gt;
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Sent: Tuesday, 30 June, 2009 3:09 AM
Subject: Mappery : uncertain success with Fedora/Wine/Garmin


>  Followups set to gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general
>
>     I'm presently running four PCs, two thinkpad laptops (a T30 and a
>  T42), and an EeePC (which doesn't come into this). Everything but my #1 PC
>  is running Fedora 11, and all of them have some version of Garmin
>  Mapsource MetroGuide and TopoUSA2008. Most of them also have DeLorme
>  TopoUSA6, Maptech's Appalachian Trail suite, or both.
>
>      On one laptop, the software not only doesn't launch, but crashes the
>  whole machine -- after which I have to wait a   surprisingly long time
>  before I can reboot.
>
>      On all the others, the Garmin software (but not the DeLorme) does
>  launch and run. Iirc, on the other laptop it does also talk to my GPSs; it
>  does not talk to them (nor even see them, alas!) on any of the three F11
>  PCs -- that's why #1 is still running F10 instead of F11. #1 (only) also
>  has a second hard drive, on which XPProSP2 is installed -- native OS for
>  all the mapware suites. (I have another suite from Topo.com, sold by
>  National Geographic, which I haven't tried lately.)
>
>     My installs/upgrades of F11 have been partly with media and partly
>  with the new preupgrade command; both have sometimes bollixed things so
>  badly that I eventually had to do a clean install; the preupgrade has also
>  gone smoothly a couple of times.
>
>     The Fedora repositories now contain six or eight apps for Garmin, and
>  more (with a lot of overlap) for GPSs in general; I have tried to install
>  all of both on all machines. I don't know why the other three PCs can't
>  see the GPSs.
>
>      If I find the reason and get them to do it soon, I'll upgrade all of
>  PC #1 to F11, and have a house free of M$h!t again. If not, I'll try to
>  preserve XP on its drive for another round...
>
>  Anybody have a guess -- or a way to find out -- why the same
>  software connects to the same GPSs on two machines, but not on four
>  others??
>
>
>
>
>
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>  I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is.
>
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If  your GPSs are connected to the serial port it may be worth checking 
access rights to the serial ports are OK on the F11 machines.

It seems F11 has introduced the dialup group ... in F10 and earlier adding 
users who needed access to the serial port to the uucp group worked for my 
data logger comms program. On a machine recently upgraded to F11 I needed to 
add the user to the dialup group.

Regards
Tony

[Frank Murphy]

On 29/06/09 20:09, Beartooth wrote:


http://www.roseindia.net/opensource/open-source-gps.shtml

http://opensourcegis.org/

Have a look at these links and see if there is anything,
that may help start a workaround.
Check if already in Fedora.

Frank