12:17 p.m.
HI, everyone,
I had a drawing I created in OO draw, and wanted to edit it. I opened
it, made the changes, then saved it. I was talking to my wife during
this process, and a message window came up saying that some bits might
not be saved in the PNG format. I clicked OK, and closed the
application after the save.
Later I came back to work on it, and the drawing had a size of 0. It
was gone. Now, I'm no artist, so it takes me a long time to generate a
drawing I can use for something, on the order of days. In this case I
lost a week or so's work. So I thought, maybe OO draw saved a temp
version. I thought I can just open OO draw and maybe recapture the
whole thing. However I cannot find Open Office draw either. I have
Calendar, Dia diagram editor, Invest Chart, J-Pilot, Presentation,
Project Management, Spreadsheet, Tasks, and Word Processing under the
Office menue of Applications. I already tried removing and
re-installing Open Office Draw using the Applications-add/remove
software tool, but no joy.
I am sure I have a copy on my backup, so I can recover the drawing, but
what gives with Open Office Draw? Am I the only one with this problem?
Where would I invoke OO draw directly?
Regards,
Les H
6:43 p.m.
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 13:42 -0700, Craig White wrote:
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 16:38 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Tuesday 06 November 2007, Les wrote:
> >HI, everyone,
> > I had a drawing I created in OO draw, and wanted to edit it. I opened
> >it, made the changes, then saved it. I was talking to my wife during
> >this process, and a message window came up saying that some bits might
> >not be saved in the PNG format. I clicked OK, and closed the
> >application after the save.
> > Later I came back to work on it, and the drawing had a size of 0. It
> >was gone. Now, I'm no artist, so it takes me a long time to generate a
> >drawing I can use for something, on the order of days. In this case I
> >lost a week or so's work. So I thought, maybe OO draw saved a temp
> >version. I thought I can just open OO draw and maybe recapture the
> >whole thing. However I cannot find Open Office draw either. I have
> >Calendar, Dia diagram editor, Invest Chart, J-Pilot, Presentation,
> >Project Management, Spreadsheet, Tasks, and Word Processing under the
> >Office menue of Applications. I already tried removing and
> >re-installing Open Office Draw using the Applications-add/remove
> >software tool, but no joy.
> >
> > I am sure I have a copy on my backup, so I can recover the drawing, but
> >what gives with Open Office Draw? Am I the only one with this problem?
> >Where would I invoke OO draw directly?
> >
> >Regards,
> >Les H
>
> If its any consolation Les, I just checked my kmenu display and draw is indeed
> missing. I didn't notice cuz I'm even less of an artist.
----
yum install openoffice.org-draw
It's installed on my machine, but not in the menu. Ric
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================================================
12:57 a.m.
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 10:17 -0800, Les wrote:
HI, everyone,
I had a drawing I created in OO draw, and wanted to edit it. I opened
it, made the changes, then saved it. I was talking to my wife during
this process, and a message window came up saying that some bits might
not be saved in the PNG format. I clicked OK, and closed the
application after the save.
Later I came back to work on it, and the drawing had a size of 0. It
was gone. Now, I'm no artist, so it takes me a long time to generate a
drawing I can use for something, on the order of days. In this case I
lost a week or so's work. So I thought, maybe OO draw saved a temp
version. I thought I can just open OO draw and maybe recapture the
whole thing. However I cannot find Open Office draw either. I have
Calendar, Dia diagram editor, Invest Chart, J-Pilot, Presentation,
Project Management, Spreadsheet, Tasks, and Word Processing under the
Office menue of Applications. I already tried removing and
re-installing Open Office Draw using the Applications-add/remove
software tool, but no joy.
I am sure I have a copy on my backup, so I can recover the drawing, but
what gives with Open Office Draw? Am I the only one with this problem?
Where would I invoke OO draw directly?
Les, I just checked my machine using: rpm -qa |grep openoffice and got
this: openoffice.org-draw-2.2.0-14.8
Hope this helps! Ric
--
================================================
My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/
http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar
http://www.wayward4now.net <---down4now too
================================================
7:20 p.m.
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 16:07 -0500, Joe Smith wrote:
Les wrote:
> HI, everyone,
> I had a drawing I created in OO draw, and wanted to edit it. I opened
> it, made the changes, then saved it. I was talking to my wife during
> this process, and a message window came up saying that some bits might
> not be saved in the PNG format. I clicked OK, and closed the
> application after the save.
> Later I came back to work on it, and the drawing had a size of 0.
You really have to pay attention when managing files with OOo, because
it's very easy to shoot yourself in the foot. I've done it several times.
However, there is no way, as far as I know, to get that message when
creating a PNG file. Are you sure that's what happened?
Draw should have saved (or prompted you to save) your work as an ODF
file (e.g. "drawing.odg"). Have you checked for that? It also has a
nasty habit of saving files in unexpected places. So, it's probably
worth a complete search of your home directory.
Something like
$ locate *.odg
or
$ find ~ -name '*.odg'
should do it.
> ... Where would I invoke OO draw directly?
The Fedora 7 OOo packages don't create a desktop icon or menu item for
Draw. You can start any OOo app from any other OOo app, so you can
always use the menu or panel to start OOo Writer, then do File > New >
Drawing, to open Draw.
If you want to create a menu or launcher for Draw, you can use the
command "which oodraw" to locate the startup file, which for f7 should
be /usr/bin/oodraw.
<Joe
Hi, Joe,
I used the "Add to Panel" function for custom Application launcher.
The program (at least as
installed by default here) is /usr/lib/openoffice.org/program/sdraw.bin
I named it "Draw" and used the icon "Tomboy.png" which resembles a
pencil on a pad of post-its.
That should do the trick for me and anyone else who wants it.
Thanks for your help.
Les H
5:07 p.m.
On Tuesday 06 November 2007, alan wrote:
On Tue, 6 Nov 2007, Gene Heskett wrote:
> There was, IIRC fairly recently, and article I read someplace because
> Inkscape had been taken back private, no longer gpl'd. Lambasted them I
> believe was the terminology used. I had it installed for a while and what
> it did, it did very well, but in my case, printer formatting was at best,
> broken.
inkspace.org does not mention this anywhere.
The FAQ at
http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/FAQ#What_License_is_Inkscape_release
d_under.3F claims it is under GPL 2.0.
Humm, maybe I should have checked that against snopes. It was on one of those
wannabe linux sites that more often than not seems to find the M$ product
somehow better.
However, I don't think you can deny that its development seems to have
approached call a surveyor and set stakes to measure its speed recently.
Its printer output isn't very good IMO, but that may go back to fedora's
theory that brokenness is expected since its fedora. I dunno, but my locally
built copy of gutenprint is pinned cuz nothing in the fedora repo seems to
want to admit gutenprint even exists, staying instead with the thouroughly
broken for epson printers gimp-print-4.2.7 that is now 3 or 4 years out of
support. But we've had this discussion quite heatedly before without
resolving the issue so I came to the conclusion this is fedora policy. Its a
shrug, as long as I can fix it. And I have for gimp, the important app here.
--
Q: Why do programmers confuse Halloween and Christmas?
A: Because OCT 31 == DEC 25.
--
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
This is your fortune.
4:10 p.m.
On Tuesday 06 November 2007, Craig White wrote:
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 12:32 -0800, Les wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 13:42 -0700, Craig White wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 16:38 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 06 November 2007, Les wrote:
> > > >HI, everyone,
> > > > I had a drawing I created in OO draw, and wanted to edit it. I
> > > > opened it, made the changes, then saved it. I was talking to my
> > > > wife during this process, and a message window came up saying that
> > > > some bits might not be saved in the PNG format. I clicked OK, and
> > > > closed the application after the save.
> > > > Later I came back to work on it, and the drawing had a size of 0.
> > > > It was gone. Now, I'm no artist, so it takes me a long time to
> > > > generate a drawing I can use for something, on the order of days.
> > > > In this case I lost a week or so's work. So I thought, maybe OO
> > > > draw saved a temp version. I thought I can just open OO draw and
> > > > maybe recapture the whole thing. However I cannot find Open Office
> > > > draw either. I have Calendar, Dia diagram editor, Invest Chart,
> > > > J-Pilot, Presentation, Project Management, Spreadsheet, Tasks, and
> > > > Word Processing under the Office menue of Applications. I already
> > > > tried removing and
> > > >re-installing Open Office Draw using the Applications-add/remove
> > > >software tool, but no joy.
> > > >
> > > > I am sure I have a copy on my backup, so I can recover the drawing,
> > > > but what gives with Open Office Draw? Am I the only one with this
> > > > problem? Where would I invoke OO draw directly?
> > > >
> > > >Regards,
> > > >Les H
> > >
> > > If its any consolation Les, I just checked my kmenu display and draw
> > > is indeed missing. I didn't notice cuz I'm even less of an
artist.
> >
> > ----
> > yum install openoffice.org-draw
> >
> > skip the morning caffeine?
>
> Will yum install something different than the updated RPM's? I did the
> install from the applications - add/remove software already.
----
The yum install openoffice.org-draw was to satisfy Gene's diversion,
which he trumped with the notion that he installed the OOo rpm's,
discussion of which makes his commentary 100% irrelevant but what the
hey.
What I was saying is that it is also missing from the OOo-2.3.0 release from
OpenOffice.org. If they are no longer maintaining it, then it stands to
reason that the fedora rpms might not have it if and when they get to the
2.3.0 stage.
I haven't used openoffice.org-draw very much but haven't had
the
experience you found but I got the impression that the suggestions made
by Joe Smith are more to your solving your issue. Lately I've been using
inkscape.
There was, IIRC fairly recently, and article I read someplace because Inkscape
had been taken back private, no longer gpl'd. Lambasted them I believe was
the terminology used. I had it installed for a while and what it did, it did
very well, but in my case, printer formatting was at best, broken.
If you do did figure out what happened, can certify that it's a
repeatable problem, you should probably add it to bugzilla.
Craig
--
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Stenderup's Law:
The sooner you fall behind, the more time you will have to catch up.
7:26 p.m.
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 17:08 -0500, Joe Smith wrote:
Les wrote:
> ... Took three applications, Gimp, draw, and snapshot to get what I
> wanted. And then the modifications don't quite match the original, but
> at least it is technically correct which is the most important thing for
> logical diagrams.
>
> I think I need to find an easier way.
If you want nice web graphics, Inkscape is the right way to go: it's
superior in quality, capability and usability over Draw.
The only areas where Draw has something of an edge is a) it's a bit
easier to get started with and b) it plays well with the other OOo apps.
I find Draw adequate for simple technical illustrations; Inkscape is a
lot more artistically powerful.
If you want to post a link to what you're working on, we might be able
to make some specific suggestions.
<Joe
All I do is simple technical illustrations for my work. I am learning
some 3d stuff from Blender,
Second Life, and Croquet because I need that for the later rounds. I
think Draw will do me just fine.
And I am too embarassed by the quality and character of what I do while
it is in progress to let others see it. Maybe later?
Regards,
Les H
6:29 p.m.
On Tuesday 06 November 2007, Joe Smith wrote:
Les wrote:
> ... Took three applications, Gimp, draw, and snapshot to get what I
> wanted. And then the modifications don't quite match the original, but
> at least it is technically correct which is the most important thing for
> logical diagrams.
>
> I think I need to find an easier way.
If you want nice web graphics, Inkscape is the right way to go: it's
superior in quality, capability and usability over Draw.
The only areas where Draw has something of an edge is a) it's a bit
easier to get started with and b) it plays well with the other OOo apps.
I find Draw adequate for simple technical illustrations; Inkscape is a
lot more artistically powerful.
If you want to post a link to what you're working on, we might be able
to make some specific suggestions.
<Joe
As a subscript to all this, it turns out that draw is in the 2.3.0 version,
but an entry in the kmenu wasn't made. That you can fix, and I also found a
sort of a CAD extension for it while I was moseying around on their site.
But these 'extensions' only work with the later versions according to the web
page on them at OOo.org.
--
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
C:\WINDOWS>DEL *.*
I feel better now.
5:12 p.m.
On Tuesday 06 November 2007, Andy Green wrote:
Somebody in the thread at some point said:
> There was, IIRC fairly recently, and article I read someplace because
> Inkscape had been taken back private, no longer gpl'd. Lambasted them I
> believe was
You're thinking of Xara, another vector drawing package. Inkscape is
Free as in Fedora.
-Andy
Damn the CRS syndrome, I do believe you are correct. With the impending death
of a daughter in the next days, too much on my mind and plate to think
straight. A man isn't supposed to outlive as many of his children as I seem
to be doing.
--
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Simon: "Am I talking to Miranda now?" (River makes a face) "No.
Right."
--"Serenity"
4:23 p.m.
Somebody in the thread at some point said:
There was, IIRC fairly recently, and article I read someplace because
Inkscape
had been taken back private, no longer gpl'd. Lambasted them I believe was
You're thinking of Xara, another vector drawing package. Inkscape is
Free as in Fedora.
-Andy
4:22 p.m.
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 18:10 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Tuesday 06 November 2007, Craig White wrote:
>On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 12:32 -0800, Les wrote:
>> On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 13:42 -0700, Craig White wrote:
>> > On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 16:38 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> > > On Tuesday 06 November 2007, Les wrote:
>> > > >HI, everyone,
>> > > > I had a drawing I created in OO draw, and wanted to edit it. I
>> > > > opened it, made the changes, then saved it. I was talking to my
>> > > > wife during this process, and a message window came up saying
that
>> > > > some bits might not be saved in the PNG format. I clicked OK,
and
>> > > > closed the application after the save.
>> > > > Later I came back to work on it, and the drawing had a size of 0.
>> > > > It was gone. Now, I'm no artist, so it takes me a long time
to
>> > > > generate a drawing I can use for something, on the order of days.
>> > > > In this case I lost a week or so's work. So I thought, maybe
OO
>> > > > draw saved a temp version. I thought I can just open OO draw
and
>> > > > maybe recapture the whole thing. However I cannot find Open
Office
>> > > > draw either. I have Calendar, Dia diagram editor, Invest Chart,
>> > > > J-Pilot, Presentation, Project Management, Spreadsheet, Tasks,
and
>> > > > Word Processing under the Office menue of Applications. I
already
>> > > > tried removing and
>> > > >re-installing Open Office Draw using the Applications-add/remove
>> > > >software tool, but no joy.
>> > > >
>> > > > I am sure I have a copy on my backup, so I can recover the
drawing,
>> > > > but what gives with Open Office Draw? Am I the only one with
this
>> > > > problem? Where would I invoke OO draw directly?
>> > > >
>> > > >Regards,
>> > > >Les H
>> > >
>> > > If its any consolation Les, I just checked my kmenu display and draw
>> > > is indeed missing. I didn't notice cuz I'm even less of an
artist.
>> >
>> > ----
>> > yum install openoffice.org-draw
>> >
>> > skip the morning caffeine?
>>
>> Will yum install something different than the updated RPM's? I did the
>> install from the applications - add/remove software already.
>
>----
>The yum install openoffice.org-draw was to satisfy Gene's diversion,
>which he trumped with the notion that he installed the OOo rpm's,
>discussion of which makes his commentary 100% irrelevant but what the
>hey.
>
What I was saying is that it is also missing from the OOo-2.3.0 release from
OpenOffice.org. If they are no longer maintaining it, then it stands to
reason that the fedora rpms might not have it if and when they get to the
2.3.0 stage.
----
openoffice.org-draw isn't missing from fedora packages, it's just
packaged separately. I don't know what the packaging looks like from
OOo. Since OP and I don't use OOo's packages, it isn't germane to the
discussion. OP stated he was able to uninstall/install
openoffice.org-draw...subject closed.
----
>I haven't used openoffice.org-draw very much but haven't had the
>experience you found but I got the impression that the suggestions made
>by Joe Smith are more to your solving your issue. Lately I've been using
>inkscape.
There was, IIRC fairly recently, and article I read someplace because Inkscape
had been taken back private, no longer gpl'd.
----
link ? diversion ?
I thought I would have heard about that since Ted Gould is a member of
the Phoenix Linux Users Group.
----
Lambasted them I believe was
the terminology used. I had it installed for a while and what it did, it did
very well, but in my case, printer formatting was at best, broken.
----
It's hard to use object oriented graphics when you live in a bit-mapped
world.
Craig
4:17 p.m.
On Tue, 6 Nov 2007, Gene Heskett wrote:
There was, IIRC fairly recently, and article I read someplace because
Inkscape
had been taken back private, no longer gpl'd. Lambasted them I believe was
the terminology used. I had it installed for a while and what it did, it did
very well, but in my case, printer formatting was at best, broken.
inkspace.org does not mention this anywhere.
The FAQ at
http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/FAQ#What_License_is_Inkscape_rele...
claims it is under GPL 2.0.
--
Q: Why do programmers confuse Halloween and Christmas?
A: Because OCT 31 == DEC 25.
4:08 p.m.
Les wrote:
... Took three applications, Gimp, draw, and snapshot to get what I
wanted. And then the modifications don't quite match the original, but
at least it is technically correct which is the most important thing for
logical diagrams.
I think I need to find an easier way.
If you want nice web graphics, Inkscape is the right way to go: it's
superior in quality, capability and usability over Draw.
The only areas where Draw has something of an edge is a) it's a bit
easier to get started with and b) it plays well with the other OOo apps.
I find Draw adequate for simple technical illustrations; Inkscape is a
lot more artistically powerful.
If you want to post a link to what you're working on, we might be able
to make some specific suggestions.
<Joe
3:45 p.m.
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 12:37 -0800, Les wrote:
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 16:07 -0500, Joe Smith wrote:
> Les wrote:
> > HI, everyone,
> > I had a drawing I created in OO draw, and wanted to edit it. I opened
> > it, made the changes, then saved it. I was talking to my wife during
> > this process, and a message window came up saying that some bits might
> > not be saved in the PNG format. I clicked OK, and closed the
> > application after the save.
> > Later I came back to work on it, and the drawing had a size of 0.
>
> You really have to pay attention when managing files with OOo, because
> it's very easy to shoot yourself in the foot. I've done it several times.
>
> However, there is no way, as far as I know, to get that message when
> creating a PNG file. Are you sure that's what happened?
>
> Draw should have saved (or prompted you to save) your work as an ODF
> file (e.g. "drawing.odg"). Have you checked for that? It also has a
> nasty habit of saving files in unexpected places. So, it's probably
> worth a complete search of your home directory.
>
> Something like
>
> $ locate *.odg
>
> or
>
> $ find ~ -name '*.odg'
>
> should do it.
>
> > ... Where would I invoke OO draw directly?
>
> The Fedora 7 OOo packages don't create a desktop icon or menu item for
> Draw. You can start any OOo app from any other OOo app, so you can
> always use the menu or panel to start OOo Writer, then do File > New >
> Drawing, to open Draw.
>
> If you want to create a menu or launcher for Draw, you can use the
> command "which oodraw" to locate the startup file, which for f7 should
> be /usr/bin/oodraw.
>
Thanks, Joe, This is the piece I was missing. I'll set that up now.
The drawing was a ".png" file and I don't remember how I saved it that
way, but that was done to allow me to put it on a server for a web
application in HTML. Anyway, with your tip I should be able to get back
to basics. For what it is worth, I downloaded the image from my web
app, then converted it and then edited it, cropped it and reinstalled
it. Took three applications, Gimp, draw, and snapshot to get what I
wanted. And then the modifications don't quite match the original, but
at least it is technically correct which is the most important thing for
logical diagrams.
I think I need to find an easier way.
----
PNG is very native format for Gimp. I am not certain why you would want
to move beyond there.
Craig
3:43 p.m.
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 12:32 -0800, Les wrote:
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 13:42 -0700, Craig White wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 16:38 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Tuesday 06 November 2007, Les wrote:
> > >HI, everyone,
> > > I had a drawing I created in OO draw, and wanted to edit it. I opened
> > >it, made the changes, then saved it. I was talking to my wife during
> > >this process, and a message window came up saying that some bits might
> > >not be saved in the PNG format. I clicked OK, and closed the
> > >application after the save.
> > > Later I came back to work on it, and the drawing had a size of 0. It
> > >was gone. Now, I'm no artist, so it takes me a long time to generate
a
> > >drawing I can use for something, on the order of days. In this case I
> > >lost a week or so's work. So I thought, maybe OO draw saved a temp
> > >version. I thought I can just open OO draw and maybe recapture the
> > >whole thing. However I cannot find Open Office draw either. I have
> > >Calendar, Dia diagram editor, Invest Chart, J-Pilot, Presentation,
> > >Project Management, Spreadsheet, Tasks, and Word Processing under the
> > >Office menue of Applications. I already tried removing and
> > >re-installing Open Office Draw using the Applications-add/remove
> > >software tool, but no joy.
> > >
> > > I am sure I have a copy on my backup, so I can recover the drawing, but
> > >what gives with Open Office Draw? Am I the only one with this problem?
> > >Where would I invoke OO draw directly?
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >Les H
> >
> > If its any consolation Les, I just checked my kmenu display and draw is indeed
> > missing. I didn't notice cuz I'm even less of an artist.
> ----
> yum install openoffice.org-draw
>
> skip the morning caffeine?
>
Will yum install something different than the updated RPM's? I did the
install from the applications - add/remove software already.
----
The yum install openoffice.org-draw was to satisfy Gene's diversion,
which he trumped with the notion that he installed the OOo rpm's,
discussion of which makes his commentary 100% irrelevant but what the
hey.
I haven't used openoffice.org-draw very much but haven't had the
experience you found but I got the impression that the suggestions made
by Joe Smith are more to your solving your issue. Lately I've been using
inkscape.
If you do did figure out what happened, can certify that it's a
repeatable problem, you should probably add it to bugzilla.
Craig
3:07 p.m.
Les wrote:
HI, everyone,
I had a drawing I created in OO draw, and wanted to edit it. I opened
it, made the changes, then saved it. I was talking to my wife during
this process, and a message window came up saying that some bits might
not be saved in the PNG format. I clicked OK, and closed the
application after the save.
Later I came back to work on it, and the drawing had a size of 0.
You really have to pay attention when managing files with OOo, because
it's very easy to shoot yourself in the foot. I've done it several times.
However, there is no way, as far as I know, to get that message when
creating a PNG file. Are you sure that's what happened?
Draw should have saved (or prompted you to save) your work as an ODF
file (e.g. "drawing.odg"). Have you checked for that? It also has a
nasty habit of saving files in unexpected places. So, it's probably
worth a complete search of your home directory.
Something like
$ locate *.odg
or
$ find ~ -name '*.odg'
should do it.
... Where would I invoke OO draw directly?
The Fedora 7 OOo packages don't create a desktop icon or menu item for
Draw. You can start any OOo app from any other OOo app, so you can
always use the menu or panel to start OOo Writer, then do File > New >
Drawing, to open Draw.
If you want to create a menu or launcher for Draw, you can use the
command "which oodraw" to locate the startup file, which for f7 should
be /usr/bin/oodraw.
<Joe
2:54 p.m.
On Tuesday 06 November 2007, Craig White wrote:
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 16:38 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Tuesday 06 November 2007, Les wrote:
> >HI, everyone,
> > I had a drawing I created in OO draw, and wanted to edit it. I opened
> >it, made the changes, then saved it. I was talking to my wife during
> >this process, and a message window came up saying that some bits might
> >not be saved in the PNG format. I clicked OK, and closed the
> >application after the save.
> > Later I came back to work on it, and the drawing had a size of 0. It
> >was gone. Now, I'm no artist, so it takes me a long time to generate a
> >drawing I can use for something, on the order of days. In this case I
> >lost a week or so's work. So I thought, maybe OO draw saved a temp
> >version. I thought I can just open OO draw and maybe recapture the
> >whole thing. However I cannot find Open Office draw either. I have
> >Calendar, Dia diagram editor, Invest Chart, J-Pilot, Presentation,
> >Project Management, Spreadsheet, Tasks, and Word Processing under the
> >Office menue of Applications. I already tried removing and
> >re-installing Open Office Draw using the Applications-add/remove
> >software tool, but no joy.
> >
> > I am sure I have a copy on my backup, so I can recover the drawing, but
> >what gives with Open Office Draw? Am I the only one with this problem?
> >Where would I invoke OO draw directly?
> >
> >Regards,
> >Les H
>
> If its any consolation Les, I just checked my kmenu display and draw is
> indeed missing. I didn't notice cuz I'm even less of an artist.
----
yum install openoffice.org-draw
IIRC my OOo install is 2.3.0 from OOo, not the repos.
skip the morning caffeine?
Or have some more, neither of which would help my 11 left thumbs ability to
draw, which has not measurably improved in 73 years. I can write gcode to
carve usefull metal pieces, but that's about it.
Craig
--
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Of course I can keep secrets. It's the people I tell them to that
can't keep them. -Anthony Haden-Guest
2:42 p.m.
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 16:38 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Tuesday 06 November 2007, Les wrote:
>HI, everyone,
> I had a drawing I created in OO draw, and wanted to edit it. I opened
>it, made the changes, then saved it. I was talking to my wife during
>this process, and a message window came up saying that some bits might
>not be saved in the PNG format. I clicked OK, and closed the
>application after the save.
> Later I came back to work on it, and the drawing had a size of 0. It
>was gone. Now, I'm no artist, so it takes me a long time to generate a
>drawing I can use for something, on the order of days. In this case I
>lost a week or so's work. So I thought, maybe OO draw saved a temp
>version. I thought I can just open OO draw and maybe recapture the
>whole thing. However I cannot find Open Office draw either. I have
>Calendar, Dia diagram editor, Invest Chart, J-Pilot, Presentation,
>Project Management, Spreadsheet, Tasks, and Word Processing under the
>Office menue of Applications. I already tried removing and
>re-installing Open Office Draw using the Applications-add/remove
>software tool, but no joy.
>
> I am sure I have a copy on my backup, so I can recover the drawing, but
>what gives with Open Office Draw? Am I the only one with this problem?
>Where would I invoke OO draw directly?
>
>Regards,
>Les H
If its any consolation Les, I just checked my kmenu display and draw is indeed
missing. I didn't notice cuz I'm even less of an artist.
----
yum install openoffice.org-draw
skip the morning caffeine?
Craig
2:38 p.m.
On Tuesday 06 November 2007, Les wrote:
HI, everyone,
I had a drawing I created in OO draw, and wanted to edit it. I opened
it, made the changes, then saved it. I was talking to my wife during
this process, and a message window came up saying that some bits might
not be saved in the PNG format. I clicked OK, and closed the
application after the save.
Later I came back to work on it, and the drawing had a size of 0. It
was gone. Now, I'm no artist, so it takes me a long time to generate a
drawing I can use for something, on the order of days. In this case I
lost a week or so's work. So I thought, maybe OO draw saved a temp
version. I thought I can just open OO draw and maybe recapture the
whole thing. However I cannot find Open Office draw either. I have
Calendar, Dia diagram editor, Invest Chart, J-Pilot, Presentation,
Project Management, Spreadsheet, Tasks, and Word Processing under the
Office menue of Applications. I already tried removing and
re-installing Open Office Draw using the Applications-add/remove
software tool, but no joy.
I am sure I have a copy on my backup, so I can recover the drawing, but
what gives with Open Office Draw? Am I the only one with this problem?
Where would I invoke OO draw directly?
Regards,
Les H
If its any consolation Les, I just checked my kmenu display and draw is indeed
missing. I didn't notice cuz I'm even less of an artist.
--
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Single tasking: Just Say No.
2:37 p.m.
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 16:07 -0500, Joe Smith wrote:
Les wrote:
> HI, everyone,
> I had a drawing I created in OO draw, and wanted to edit it. I opened
> it, made the changes, then saved it. I was talking to my wife during
> this process, and a message window came up saying that some bits might
> not be saved in the PNG format. I clicked OK, and closed the
> application after the save.
> Later I came back to work on it, and the drawing had a size of 0.
You really have to pay attention when managing files with OOo, because
it's very easy to shoot yourself in the foot. I've done it several times.
However, there is no way, as far as I know, to get that message when
creating a PNG file. Are you sure that's what happened?
Draw should have saved (or prompted you to save) your work as an ODF
file (e.g. "drawing.odg"). Have you checked for that? It also has a
nasty habit of saving files in unexpected places. So, it's probably
worth a complete search of your home directory.
Something like
$ locate *.odg
or
$ find ~ -name '*.odg'
should do it.
> ... Where would I invoke OO draw directly?
The Fedora 7 OOo packages don't create a desktop icon or menu item for
Draw. You can start any OOo app from any other OOo app, so you can
always use the menu or panel to start OOo Writer, then do File > New >
Drawing, to open Draw.
If you want to create a menu or launcher for Draw, you can use the
command "which oodraw" to locate the startup file, which for f7 should
be /usr/bin/oodraw.
Thanks, Joe, This is the piece I was missing. I'll set that up now.
The drawing was a ".png" file and I don't remember how I saved it that
way, but that was done to allow me to put it on a server for a web
application in HTML. Anyway, with your tip I should be able to get back
to basics. For what it is worth, I downloaded the image from my web
app, then converted it and then edited it, cropped it and reinstalled
it. Took three applications, Gimp, draw, and snapshot to get what I
wanted. And then the modifications don't quite match the original, but
at least it is technically correct which is the most important thing for
logical diagrams.
I think I need to find an easier way.
Regards,
Les H
2:32 p.m.
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 13:42 -0700, Craig White wrote:
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 16:38 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Tuesday 06 November 2007, Les wrote:
> >HI, everyone,
> > I had a drawing I created in OO draw, and wanted to edit it. I opened
> >it, made the changes, then saved it. I was talking to my wife during
> >this process, and a message window came up saying that some bits might
> >not be saved in the PNG format. I clicked OK, and closed the
> >application after the save.
> > Later I came back to work on it, and the drawing had a size of 0. It
> >was gone. Now, I'm no artist, so it takes me a long time to generate a
> >drawing I can use for something, on the order of days. In this case I
> >lost a week or so's work. So I thought, maybe OO draw saved a temp
> >version. I thought I can just open OO draw and maybe recapture the
> >whole thing. However I cannot find Open Office draw either. I have
> >Calendar, Dia diagram editor, Invest Chart, J-Pilot, Presentation,
> >Project Management, Spreadsheet, Tasks, and Word Processing under the
> >Office menue of Applications. I already tried removing and
> >re-installing Open Office Draw using the Applications-add/remove
> >software tool, but no joy.
> >
> > I am sure I have a copy on my backup, so I can recover the drawing, but
> >what gives with Open Office Draw? Am I the only one with this problem?
> >Where would I invoke OO draw directly?
> >
> >Regards,
> >Les H
>
> If its any consolation Les, I just checked my kmenu display and draw is indeed
> missing. I didn't notice cuz I'm even less of an artist.
----
yum install openoffice.org-draw
skip the morning caffeine?
Will yum install something different than the updated RPM's? I did the
install from the applications - add/remove software already.
Regards,
Les H
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