ide editor??

[bruce]

Hi.

Curious to know what IDE/editors you guys use for developing code (and
why if you care to expound).

Are  there any you prefer for linux vs windows?

just curious...

thanks

[Thomas Cameron]

On 5/23/23 16:44, bruce wrote:
>  Hi.
>  
>  Curious to know what IDE/editors you guys use for developing code (and
>  why if you care to expound).
>  
>  Are  there any you prefer for linux vs windows?
>  
>  just curious... 
I use vim, but I'm not a power programmer, just an old sysadmin who has 
to tinker with code every once in a while.

I've used VS Code in the past, and it's nicer than I want to admit, 
coming from Microsoft.

There is a decent article which talks about vim based editors at 
https://geekflare.com/best-vim-editors/, that may help you some.

Eclipse has a solid reputation.

There's also this article which talks about the difference between code 
editors and IDEs: 
https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/best-linux-distros-programmers/.

Thomas

[Roger Wells]

On 5/23/23 17:44, bruce wrote:
>  Hi.
>
>  Curious to know what IDE/editors you guys use for developing code (and
>  why if you care to expound).
>
>  Are  there any you prefer for linux vs windows?
>
>  just curious...
>
>  thanks 
Gvim here. (Vim with a GUI)
dnf install gvim

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[Joe Zeff]

On 05/23/2023 04:25 PM, Roger Wells wrote:
>  Gvim here. (Vim with a GUI)
>  dnf install gvim 
If I need to edit a file in a GUI, I use mousepad, as it comes with 
Xfce.  If I'm using a CLI, I use what I like to call "Mork's editor,"
nano.

[Sam Varshavchik]

bruce writes:

>  Hi.
>
>  Curious to know what IDE/editors you guys use for developing code (and
>  why if you care to expound).
>
>  Are  there any you prefer for linux vs windows? 
There's only one true editor for developers:

emacs

Everything else is a pale imitation of emacs' awesomeness.

[Chris Adams]

Once upon a time, Sam Varshavchik <mrsam(a)courier-mta.com&gt; said:
>  Everything else is a pale imitation of emacs' awesomeness.
Oh, did the emacs OS finally implement an editor? :)
-- 
Chris Adams <linux(a)cmadams.net&gt;

[Tom Horsley]

On Tue, 23 May 2023 19:02:05 -0400
Sam Varshavchik wrote:

>  There's only one true editor for developers:
>  
>  emacs
>  
>  Everything else is a pale imitation of emacs' awesomeness. 
Truth!

[Thomas Cameron]

On 5/23/23 18:02, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
>  There's only one true editor for developers:
>  
>  emacs
>  
>  Everything else is a pale imitation of emacs' awesomeness. 
EMACS is a great OS. It just needs a decent text editor. 😂

-- 
Thomas

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2023-05-24 at 08:43 -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote:
>  On 5/23/23 18:02, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
>  > There's only one true editor for developers:
>  > 
>  > emacs
>  > 
>  > Everything else is a pale imitation of emacs' awesomeness.
>  
>  EMACS is a great OS. It just needs a decent text editor. 😂 
Ah, all the old jokes again :-)

Escape-Meta-Alt-Control-Shift

poc

[Michael Hennebry]

On Wed, 24 May 2023, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

>  On Wed, 2023-05-24 at 08:43 -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote:
> > On 5/23/23 18:02, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> >> There's only one true editor for developers:
> >>
> >> emacs
> >>
> >> Everything else is a pale imitation of emacs' awesomeness.
> >
> > EMACS is a great OS. It just needs a decent text editor. ?
>
>  Ah, all the old jokes again :-)
>
>  Escape-Meta-Alt-Control-Shift 
EMACS Makes A Computer Slow.

I usually use gvim and hand-made make files.
If I get stuck, I print something out,
but not from gvim, from gedit.
Printing from gvim gives me a rather
thin font that I find hard to read.
Ideally I would discover what gedit
does and tell gvim to do that.
Have not been able to do either.

-- 
Michael   hennebry(a)mail.cs.ndsu.NoDak.edu
"Occasionally irrational explanations are required"  --  Luke Roman

[ToddAndMargo]

On 5/24/23 16:23, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>  gedit 

I have gedit installed but don't use it much.
I typically use leafpad.  gedit handled UFT-16
and leaf pad does not, so I know I need to
transition at some point.

I adore leafpad ability to drop all formatting
when I need to convert something to plain text
and the place I want to drop it still does
some formatting even when I paste special
as plain test.

Paste into where I want, note the formatting
I did not want, paste into leafpad, then paste
from leafpad to where I want.

And when am doing thigs in plain text, I do
not like tabs.  I want separate windows.
(I suppose I can tell gedit to do that, but
I have not looked yet.)

[Go Canes]

On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 5:45 PM bruce <badouglas(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  Curious to know what IDE/editors you guys use for developing code
> (and
>  why if you care to expound). 
emacs, in text mode (non-GUI), and without color decorations.  I've
been using it since the early 1980s when there really wasn't much in
the way of "IDE"s.  I also use it on Windows - either emacs in
cygwin/msys, or MicroEMACS (caveat - I have done very little
development under Windows).  emacs has a bit of a learning curve, but
you absolutely get out of it whatever effort you put into it; the
price of power.

[Emmett Culley]

On 5/23/23 2:44 PM, bruce wrote:
>  Hi.
>  
>  Curious to know what IDE/editors you guys use for developing code (and
>  why if you care to expound).
>  
>  Are  there any you prefer for linux vs windows?
>  
>  just curious...
>  
>  thanks 
I've been using PHPstorm for about eight years, and like it a lot.  Used Eclipse when
I was doing C and C++, but for sure PHPstorm is my preferred IDE these days.  Javascript,
PHP, Vue and Laravel all have great integration.

I understand the makers of PHPstorm have a "bigger" app that is useful for many
other languages, but concentrated on Java.  IntelliJ I think it is called.

Not free, but well worth the cost, and getting better all the time.

Emmett

[Eddie G. O'Connor]

I used to use CodeBlocks when I was trying to learn C++, but ever since 
VSCodium came out?..(https://vscodium.com/)....its my go to for 
HTML/CSS/Python stuff. When its just editing an .RPM or .LIST file 
("/etc/apt/sources.list") I go with gEdit only because Fedora has come 
with that since time began and its the one I'm most comfortable with.



EGO II




On 5/23/23 8:57 PM, Emmett Culley via users wrote:
> On 5/23/23 2:44 PM, bruce wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>> Curious to know what IDE/editors you guys use for developing code (and
>> why if you care to expound).
>>
>> Are  there any you prefer for linux vs windows?
>>
>> just curious...
>>
>> thanks
>
> I've been using PHPstorm for about eight years, and like it a lot.  
> Used Eclipse when I was doing C and C++, but for sure PHPstorm is my 
> preferred IDE these days.  Javascript, PHP, Vue and Laravel all have 
> great integration.
>
> I understand the makers of PHPstorm have a "bigger" app that is useful 
> for many other languages, but concentrated on Java. IntelliJ I think 
> it is called.
>
> Not free, but well worth the cost, and getting better all the time.
>
> Emmett
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[Tim]

On Tue, 2023-05-23 at 17:44 -0400, bruce wrote:
>  Curious to know what IDE/editors you guys use for developing code
> (and
>  why if you care to expound). 
Pen and paper, back in my day.

Plan it, write mnemonics on paper.
Look up and write op-codes on paper.
Type it in.

I was the compiler.

Somewhere I've still got some blank ruled pages for mnemonics, op-
codes, and comments.  And a list of 8085 codes.  I may have thrown away
the SDK85 handbook.  I wish I hadn't, after seeing people selling them
for $300+ on ebay.

And for non-machine-language coding, still pen and paper, and a
printer.

Plan it on paper.
Type in commands.
Run it.

Fix a few syntax errors on screen, you nearly always made a typo.  But
if you had more than you cared to find on-screen, print the code out,
debug it with pen and ink, type in the corrections.
 
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[ToddAndMargo]

On 5/23/23 14:44, bruce wrote:
>  Hi.
>  
>  Curious to know what IDE/editors you guys use for developing code (and
>  why if you care to expound).
>  
>  Are  there any you prefer for linux vs windows?
>  
>  just curious...
>  
>  thanks 

I program in Raku (Perl 6).  My go to editor is
Geany.  Runs in Windows and Linux.

The big thing I adore about Geany is that it is
thin enough that it under `ssh -X` over the
Internet on a DSL connection.  I have two
customers with Linux servers I will ssh into
and program in Geany over the ssh connection.
(I do not care much for bloated software.)

They also have a wonderful community that will
help you out with issues.

Con: Geany does not recognize my favorite raku group
comment blocks the way I like and underscores are
hard to see.  Nothing is perfect.

I will typically program in Linux and run under
qemu-kvm Windows 11 when programming for Windows.

I also will sometimes use vi, leafpad, and notepad,
but 95% of the time I am in Geany

[George N. White III]

On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 6:45 PM bruce <badouglas(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  Hi.
>
>  Curious to know what IDE/editors you guys use for developing code (and
>  why if you care to expound).
>
>  Are  there any you prefer for linux vs windows?
>  
Emacs unless the edit I want to make is very small and I don't have emacs
running, then vi(m).
Emacs works well on linux, Windows, and macOS in GUI mode when not using
ssh, but also works
well in text mode.  A mouse is not required to use emacs (so I don't have
rummage thru the cruft
on my desk to find one!).  My memory has never been reliable, but after 40
years, my fingers know
emacs

-- 
George N. White III