Fedora Core 4 -- 1387 Kernel Problem Compaq nx9010 Laptop

[Robert L Cochran]

The 1387 kernel for Fedora Core 4 seems broken on my HP Compaq nx9010 
laptop. Kernel messages seem to stop dead shortly after "setting 
hostname to localhost.localdomain" but pressing the <enter> or 
ctrl-alt-delete keys seems to restart messages very s-l-o-w-l-y.

I went back to kernel 1369 and everything boots normally.

Bob Cochran

[Markus Huber]

Robert L Cochran wrote:
>  The 1387 kernel for Fedora Core 4 seems broken on my HP Compaq nx9010
>
>  laptop. Kernel messages seem to stop dead shortly after "setting 
>  hostname to localhost.localdomain" but pressing the <enter> or 
>  ctrl-alt-delete keys seems to restart messages very s-l-o-w-l-y. 
Had another issue with this kernel:
booting on the desktop was ok, but starting winrar through wine froze 
the whole system. I tried the kernel from the development tree and 
everything seems to be fine. So I hope for a kernel update soon.

My installed kernels are:
$ rpm -q kernel
kernel-2.6.11-1.1369_FC4
kernel-2.6.12-1.1387_FC4
kernel-2.6.12-1.1411_FC5

Regards
Markus Huber

[Jim Cornette]

Markus Huber wrote:

>  Robert L Cochran wrote:
>
> > The 1387 kernel for Fedora Core 4 seems broken on my HP Compaq nx9010 
> > laptop. Kernel messages seem to stop dead shortly after "setting 
> > hostname to localhost.localdomain" but pressing the <enter> or 
> > ctrl-alt-delete keys seems to restart messages very s-l-o-w-l-y.
>
>
>  Had another issue with this kernel:
>  booting on the desktop was ok, but starting winrar through wine froze 
>  the whole system. I tried the kernel from the development tree and 
>  everything seems to be fine. So I hope for a kernel update soon.
>
>  My installed kernels are:
>  $ rpm -q kernel
>  kernel-2.6.11-1.1369_FC4
>  kernel-2.6.12-1.1387_FC4
>  kernel-2.6.12-1.1411_FC5
>
>  Regards
>  Markus Huber
>  
I can boot fine with kernel-2.6.12-1.1400_FC5 but get the same lockup 
seen with kernel-2.6.12-1.1387_FC4  as with  kernel-2.6.12-1.1411_FC5. 
Are you using a system that relies ACPI to be functional? I cannot boot 
with either.

Jim




-- 
"Love your country but never trust its government."
-- from a hand-painted road sign in central Pennsylvania

[Markus Huber]

Jim Cornette wrote:

>  I can boot fine with kernel-2.6.12-1.1400_FC5 but get the same lockup
>
>  seen with kernel-2.6.12-1.1387_FC4  as with  kernel-2.6.12-1.1411_FC5. 
>  Are you using a system that relies ACPI to be functional? I cannot boot 
>  with either. 
I'll do an update later this day on an HP zd7000 notebook which relies 
on ACPI and will report the behaviour.

Markus

[Ryan]

Markus Huber wrote:

>  Jim Cornette wrote:
>
> > I can boot fine with kernel-2.6.12-1.1400_FC5 but get the same lockup 
> > seen with kernel-2.6.12-1.1387_FC4  as with  
> > kernel-2.6.12-1.1411_FC5. Are you using a system that relies ACPI to 
> > be functional? I cannot boot with either.
>
>
>  I'll do an update later this day on an HP zd7000 notebook which relies 
>  on ACPI and will report the behaviour.
>
>  Markus
>  
Could this be similar to my problem where FC 3 kernels boot, but FC 4 
ones do not?

[Jim Cornette]

ryan wrote:

>  Markus Huber wrote:
>
> > Jim Cornette wrote:
> >
> >> I can boot fine with kernel-2.6.12-1.1400_FC5 but get the same 
> >> lockup seen with kernel-2.6.12-1.1387_FC4  as with  
> >> kernel-2.6.12-1.1411_FC5. Are you using a system that relies ACPI to 
> >> be functional? I cannot boot with either.
> >
> >
> >
> > I'll do an update later this day on an HP zd7000 notebook which 
> > relies on ACPI and will report the behaviour.
> >
> > Markus
> >
>  Could this be similar to my problem where FC 3 kernels boot, but FC 4 
>  ones do not?
>  
The problem might be related to the differences between the way devices 
are managed between FC3 and
FC4. Look into UDEV and other possibilities. I think the kernel is 
missing some features that the FC4 kernel used to have compiled in.

ACPI is a different issue, HP laptops cannot boot without it for some 
models. The model mentioned above and my HP ze4315us cannot boot without 
ACPI being functional.

Jim

-- 
"Love your country but never trust its government."
-- from a hand-painted road sign in central Pennsylvania

[Markus Huber]

Jim Cornette wrote:
>  ryan wrote:
>  
> > Markus Huber wrote:
> >
> >> Jim Cornette wrote:
> >>
> >>> I can boot fine with kernel-2.6.12-1.1400_FC5 but get the same 
> >>> lockup seen with kernel-2.6.12-1.1387_FC4  as with  
> >>> kernel-2.6.12-1.1411_FC5. Are you using a system that relies ACPI to 
> >>> be functional? I cannot boot with either.
> >>
> >>
> >> I'll do an update later this day on an HP zd7000 notebook which 
> >> relies on ACPI and will report the behaviour.
> >>
> >>
> > Could this be similar to my problem where FC 3 kernels boot, but FC 4 
> > ones do not?
> >
>  The problem might be related to the differences between the way devices 
>  are managed between FC3 and
>  FC4. Look into UDEV and other possibilities. I think the kernel is 
>  missing some features that the FC4 kernel used to have compiled in. 
With kernel-2.6.12-1.1411_FC5 from the development tree I do not 
experience any problem with programs running through wine, and I am 
using this one on my desktop at present.

>  ACPI is a different issue, HP laptops cannot boot without it for some
>
>  models. The model mentioned above and my HP ze4315us cannot boot without 
>  ACPI being functional. 
Updated my HP zd7000 with kernel-2.6.12-1.1387_FC4smp (it's a P4 3.2 GHz 
with Hyperthreading) and it boots fine with ACPI.

Markus

[Jim Cornette]

Markus Huber wrote:

>  Jim Cornette wrote:
>
> > ryan wrote:
> >
> >> Markus Huber wrote:
> >>
> >>> Jim Cornette wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I can boot fine with kernel-2.6.12-1.1400_FC5 but get the same 
> >>>> lockup seen with kernel-2.6.12-1.1387_FC4  as with  
> >>>> kernel-2.6.12-1.1411_FC5. Are you using a system that relies ACPI 
> >>>> to be functional? I cannot boot with either.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I'll do an update later this day on an HP zd7000 notebook which 
> >>> relies on ACPI and will report the behaviour.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Could this be similar to my problem where FC 3 kernels boot, but FC 
> >> 4 ones do not?
> >>
> > The problem might be related to the differences between the way 
> > devices are managed between FC3 and
> > FC4. Look into UDEV and other possibilities. I think the kernel is 
> > missing some features that the FC4 kernel used to have compiled in.
>
>
>  With kernel-2.6.12-1.1411_FC5 from the development tree I do not 
>  experience any problem with programs running through wine, and I am 
>  using this one on my desktop at present. 
1411 locks up for me. I even uninstalled it and then reinstalled it 
again with the same problem with it locking up. ACPI doesn't work for me 
with this kernel version.

> > ACPI is a different issue, HP laptops cannot boot without it for some 
> > models. The model mentioned above and my HP ze4315us cannot boot 
> > without ACPI being functional.
>
>
>  Updated my HP zd7000 with kernel-2.6.12-1.1387_FC4smp (it's a P4 3.2 
>  GHz with Hyperthreading) and it boots fine with ACPI. 
Even though I have a single processor, maybe acpi was messed up in the 
single processor kernel. I'll install the kernel-smp version and see if 
it works. I believe the smp kernel always has acpi enabled.

Thanks a lot for the hint.

Jim

>  Markus
>

[Jim Cornette]

Markus Huber wrote:

>  Updated my HP zd7000 with kernel-2.6.12-1.1387_FC4smp (it's a P4 3.2 
>  GHz with Hyperthreading) and it boots fine with ACPI.
>
>  Markus
>  
Thanks Markus,

The smp 1411 boots but the non-smp kernel does not boot on my machine.
The smp version does not scale frequency, the battery applet does not 
work, the CPU runs full throttle, but it does boot.

Going back to 1400 for now. I assume that 1387 will boot with this 
kernel. It is not a laptop computer dream though.

Jim

-- 
A penny saved kills your career in government.